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29 Jul 2004, 09:23 (Ref:1050650)
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Ford/DJR/Lowndes
Just heard this off a friend (who has a friend) and thought it unbeleivable....but this bloke is normally pretty close to the action.
The rumour goes that Ford are looking at buying DJR, shipping Lowndes across to the QLD based team to eventually take an ownership in it. This moves Radisich and S.Johnson to FPR. There are lots of reasons to say that this won't happen, does anyone else have anything to support it? |
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29 Jul 2004, 09:28 (Ref:1050658)
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FTR,00,FPV that is 4 teams that they are supposed to have owned or been going to buy in about 5 years,I can't see it happening and they would want it Melbourne based.
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29 Jul 2004, 09:35 (Ref:1050664)
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There's nothing to stop them moving it to Melbourne.
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29 Jul 2004, 09:39 (Ref:1050669)
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I have one: No manufacturer is allowed to own a team...hence the HMS/TWR/Callitwotuwill enquiry.
Anyone who thinks that a manufacturer would be dumb enough to breach this rule needs their head read. DJR have a first-class QLD facility that is purpose built for their needs. The chance of Dick leaving there is remote unless there is a colour change in the cars - brand, not sponsor. |
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29 Jul 2004, 09:40 (Ref:1050670)
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Except all the workshop facilities they would have to purchase along with the team.
Besides, don't the rules say a manufacturer can't actually OWN a team? |
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29 Jul 2004, 09:40 (Ref:1050671)
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Where does radisich fit into that equasion? who would fill the hole at 888?
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29 Jul 2004, 09:42 (Ref:1050674)
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Hmm, Ritter?
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29 Jul 2004, 09:57 (Ref:1050695)
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Ways around everything I guess.
Ford loan Lowndes cash to purchase...I dunno Yes there will be variables such as holes in other teams etc....I am trying to see if anyone else has any info GTR? |
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29 Jul 2004, 10:01 (Ref:1050697)
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There is definately big changes coming for DJR in the near future. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this rumour is true!
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29 Jul 2004, 10:14 (Ref:1050710)
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Hows this for a thought.
DJR sell to Lowndes in a similar nature that Skaife aquired HRT. Lowndes and Ritter drive. Seton as Team Manager and development driver. And........ Shell would hang around then 
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29 Jul 2004, 10:18 (Ref:1050712)
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and then DJR goes to Holden in 2006.
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29 Jul 2004, 10:22 (Ref:1050716)
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On current performance, HRT may be going cheap this off season. Last edited by kerrystevens; 29 Jul 2004 at 10:25. |
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29 Jul 2004, 10:24 (Ref:1050718)
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Lowndes doesn't want to own anything.
Rattie, well....gee....ummm....crikey.... |
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29 Jul 2004, 11:01 (Ref:1050750)
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DJR is for sale at the right price, Dicky said it himself. I am led to believe their discussions with Holden are WAY further along than we have been led to believe... and that work has stopped on a BA shell that was to be a new car for the enduros. In the end, my crystal ball suggests Mr Lowndes will stay exactly where he is for 2006 & beyond..... |
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29 Jul 2004, 11:11 (Ref:1050757)
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GTR you are a long way off the mark with your call about DJR and Holden. Its definetly NOT on. From a VERY good source
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29 Jul 2004, 11:19 (Ref:1050762)
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I am not saying it is on, I am saying the discussions to explore the red opportunity went way beyond just idle chit chat.... for reasons that escape my logic, Holden see DJR's brand name as a prize, and would be seen as a "win" against the other mob if they convince the icon to switch....
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29 Jul 2004, 12:12 (Ref:1050797)
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29 Jul 2004, 20:54 (Ref:1051298)
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I think the recent additions of staff at FPR will keep Craig where he is now...
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29 Jul 2004, 21:13 (Ref:1051316)
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And dont think they have finished.... I wonder if there should be some sort of rule in Supercar about talking to anyone and everyone in the paddock who is currently employed in specialist positions about moving across....
435 people might think they have the same job opportunity at Ford Performless Racing
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29 Jul 2004, 23:17 (Ref:1051425)
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Apolgies in advance for not having a copy of the quoted evidence but I am sure I read during Dicks recent denial of the Holden switch that he had just signed on for another 3 years with Ford and the team is now working on securing next years sponsorship.
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30 Jul 2004, 02:27 (Ref:1051513)
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GTR, you mean like the Rugby League anti-tampering rule?
Can't see that happening. 1) It would almost certainly be a restraint of trade. 2) If teams want to keep key personnel - sign them to a contract. As much as we all talk about contracts being worth nothing, well, to break one costs plenty. The contracts are only ever nullified when lotsa cash is transferred. Formula 1 does it quite well. Key personnel have contracts, to break them, new team pays handsomely and person has 6 months gardening leave. |
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30 Jul 2004, 02:50 (Ref:1051529)
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So the others are fair game.What help could some vehicle dymanics guru be in a control formula when it goes to control shock and spring package and all the pick up points are the same. Remeber it is all about the driver and that is what the team owners(former drivers) want it to return to.You don't find to many drivers that say that they are not the best driver out there but are just lucky to have a faster car than everyone else. Look at the difference in performance of say Bowe/Brad Skaife/Kelly richards/rest of CPR Tander/any other GRM driver All down to the driver,no team would field a good car and a better car according to prefence of driver would they 
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30 Jul 2004, 03:10 (Ref:1051537)
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is it illegal for a manufacturer to own a team, or a franchise? what if ford own the team, and shell own the franchise?
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30 Jul 2004, 06:17 (Ref:1051637)
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I think the whole holden/djr whispering campaign was to scare some more money out of Ford. Looks like it worked.
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