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23 Jun 2011, 22:00 (Ref:2904968) | #1 | |
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Front splitter/diffuser regulations
Hi all,
New to the forum. I was brought here researching Le Mans 24 regulations and finding a few inconsistencies between what I'm reading in the rules and what I'm seeing. To give you an example, the rules on the front diffuser state that they must "be within the perimeter of the original body work". Several other parts of the regulations say that the car must also look identical from above, again referring that no aerodynamic device must exceed the perimeter of the original bodywork. So how the heck are the BMW M3's running front splitters that stick out over 6 inches, more than 3 inches out beyond the most forward point of the bumper? Is my interpretation all wonky? What gives? Thanks guys! Cheers, Greg |
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No, that's a special weight dispensation to help balance the shopping in the boot.....
No idea but others more techically-minded will have comments for sure. Welcome to the forum. |
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23 Jun 2011, 22:35 (Ref:2904976) | #3 | ||
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Thanks and I have a heap more of these regulation questions. I sent several requests to the ACO but no replies. |
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23 Jun 2011, 22:47 (Ref:2904980) | #4 | ||
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Well , theres a surprise . I wouldnt expect an answer from them .
Visible exhaust emissions is another one . The rule says NONE . None in my book means none !!! Must be differant in France . |
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Little worried about this. I really need exact information as I'm trying to draft up some cost figures for a new team. It's pretty grassroots so little things like this are an annoyance. It's expensive enough to do all the car prep without having to redo it because of ambiguity. Or being at a massive performance disadvantage because it's accepted for everyone to ignore certain rules or whatever is going on here.
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So what everyone's saying is it's a total crap shoot and I should put a 2 foot long front splitter and cross my fingers? Maybe painting the french flag on it will help too?
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All GTE cars are heavily modified, and very different from the roadcar.
It's like rallying, a Group N car and WRC essentially look the same, yet the former costs in the region of £100k, the latter £400k. |
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I'm wondering why no other team protested for this front splitter on the BMW.
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BMW had promised to share out their Clubcard points if no-one snitched on them.......
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The rsr jags were amazed to see what the other cars got away with after they were interpreting the rules the way they were written. So you might want to consult with the aco to see what allowances you can get |
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We'll play by the book and see what the ACO says. If they shoot us down for being the only team to be 100% within specs that'll at least be comical. |
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BMW built a GT2 car. the BMW M3 roadcar is not even in the same league as the ferrari 458 italia/corvette Z06/Porsche 911 road cars. the BMW is significantly heavier and parts cost has been sacrificed to provide a cheaper car. On the order or as much as half the Porsche and half a third the Ferrari. but thats not the point of GT2. they don't just exclude cars. Good thing your not in charge of the ACO. there'd probably be no diesels and no manufacturers. Your not the ACO. Either your wrong or the ACO is wrong.........i doubt you have any say in the ACO. |
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the fact that this forum topic is entirely directed towards the Splitter of the BMW M3 shows that the creator has taken a shallow view to the GTE field.
Your point out something completely obvious(front splitter)....But there's alot more waivers and secrets amongst all the cars that we don't know about. That includes the ferrari,porsche,corvette, and BMW. The BMw splitter is the least of your worrys sir. Sounds like someone who's trying to smudge BMW.....Plenty of people from the world of motorsports look at these threads. Gvan could be anybody..... The ACO does not release the waivers for each car so we don;t trully now who is doing what. Your being scared off by the splitter of a BMW M3?.................. If you aren't pushing the ACO for every little inch when you design a car you are not doing your job. |
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as for the 458, we only have Lieb's coment at le mans, where he says we are looking at ferrari as a benchmark for our new car since their car has the least waivers. |
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