Magny-Cours

[jab]

I'm bored, as you may be able to tell

Radical Magny-Cours - extension's a bit naff but you get the idea. The important bits are the other changes to the current circuit

[dyewat808]

I like the changes to the current circuit.

For some reason, I've always liked Magny Cours, despite its reputation as being boring and uneventful. I think its because of the long straights and slightly unique look.

[Purist]

I don't like the third sector at Magny Cours. However, if I did edit the place, I would leave the start/finish straight, after the exit of the chicane, around Estoril to the Adelaide hairpin. After that, do whatever that seems to fit with that first part of the lap. The Estoril right-hander, although it's fast, has potential for multiple lines, and sets you up for a good slipstreaming run down the back stretch into the Adelaide hairpin, where you can outbrake somebody.

[kezza7]

So if i was Mr. Magny-Cours i would aim to give the track more oppertunities to overtake, to eliminate the continual processional races we had.

And this is my first ever try at making a track on anything other than my RE book, so don't expect much!

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3544801

[Purist]

i kind of like your extension in the lower right. I would, however, loosen the corner at the top of it just a bit, and realign that new bottom stretch to get rid of that pointless chicane.

Leave the opening sequence of corners alone. You've ruined Estoril with that angular cut-off, and your change will not result in any overtaking happening at that point on the track. Also, it will homogenize the racing line through that section and down the current back stretch, which will hurt overtaking into the Adelaide hairpin. Overtaking at Adelaide will be hindered by your changes as well because the speed down the current back stretch will be reduced.

Don't worry about bypassing those esses in the infield. If anything they put the cars/drivers more off balance heading into that 180 in the infield, which actually helps overtaking potential there. Replacing the infield 180 with that double 90 kills the flow, and the corner as it is is slow enough that if overtaking is possible there, you should be able to do it there anyway. Also, that double 90 is impossibly tight anyway, and simply can't be done because the cars would hardly be capable of even getting around it.

[Yannick]

Magny-Cours would be perfectly alright with me if they removed that final right-left chicane and equipped a lot of the walls with catch fencing or removed them where possible. Remember EJ Viso's accident in GP2 when he rolled over one of these walls? That was scary.

It's the main reason why I would only run a tintop series at Magny-Cours at this point.

[ECW Dan Selby]

I forgot that chicane was even there. I used to like the old quick chicane.

Selby

[xlr8r]

My much chicaned version.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3547047

[nickyf1]

My radical version..
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3556076

[Tathrim]

Both of the previous two edits have broken Estoril and, as a result, Adelaide.

Why?

[jab]

I left it out because I couldn't find a way of include it. Plus with the current F1 cars, it's the main reason why there's hardly any passing into Adelaide anymore

[Purist]

I would say it's quite the opposite. Once you get past the lift on entry, you have choices of lines to take depending on where you apex. This produces speed differentials on exit down the back stretch, and allows for slipstreaming and overtaking under brakes at Adelaide. It is the fact that Estoril is fast that allows there to be as much overtaking into Adelaide.

If you had a hairpin, or other slow corner, leading onto that back stretch, and that straight isn't as long as the ones on the newer circuits, at least with the cuts you've now made to it, overtaking would be even worse than it is now. Those slower corners, especially when they don't build them banked anymore, are one line, one speed corners, which means you have to be able to get your run solely based on what you can do going down the straight.

In short, Estoril is what makes most of the overtaking at Magny Cours; it is NOT what spoils the racing at the circuit.