Lola B09/00 2009 spec .

The Badger · 3 Feb 2009, 00:31 (Ref:2387040)

http://www.endurance-info.com/2009_L...aLMP2_2009.jpg

I found this pic on Endurance-Info .

Its the new Lola B09 . I thought it might be an idea to have a dedicated thread as the discussion would get lost in the LMS thread .

The wing doesnt look as bad as I first thought , but it is still horrible .

Could this version be the KSM car with the single intake on the left rear ?

cmk · 3 Feb 2009, 00:47 (Ref:2387044)

I'm pretty sure it's generic for a turbo 4cyl car, so it could just as easily be any Mazda car - Dyson or RML for instance.

Dead-Eye · 3 Feb 2009, 00:55 (Ref:2387045)

Dyson doesn't have the new wing...

cmk · 3 Feb 2009, 01:12 (Ref:2387050)

But you and I know they'll have the rest.

Hugewally · 3 Feb 2009, 01:26 (Ref:2387054)

Dyson doesn't need the new wing as they're in P2 in the ALMS.

On a side note, remember when the GTPs first started? They all had wings shorter than the width of the car.

cmk · 3 Feb 2009, 01:41 (Ref:2387058)

That's exactly why they'll have the rest. One '09 spec Lola and one '08 that has been mentioned many times as awaiting its ''09 updates. The aerodynamic benefits of the rest of the rear bodywork surely mean it will be included. Not sure I'm wild about the looks of it, but if it's faster...

HORNDAWG · 3 Feb 2009, 02:03 (Ref:2387064)

Plus Dyson's 2nd chassis, the new non BK car, if in 09 spec will still be eligible for an auto-invite to Le Mans in 10'. Mazda and Dyson have said they would like to go. I think we will see both in 09' spec for Sebring. Also as cmk pointed out, it has been stated that the ex-BK chassis is awaiting 09 updates.

L.P.

The Badger · 3 Feb 2009, 02:05 (Ref:2387065)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmk

I'm pretty sure it's generic for a turbo 4cyl car, so it could just as easily be any Mazda car - Dyson or RML for instance.

Yeah , thats what I ment . Meaning it looks like a mazda version to me too .

**joeb** · 3 Feb 2009, 03:03 (Ref:2387075)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Plus Dyson's 2nd chassis, the new non BK car, if in 09 spec will still be eligible for an auto-invite to Le Mans in 10'. Mazda and Dyson have said they would like to go. I think we will see both in 09' spec for Sebring. Also as cmk pointed out, it has been stated that the ex-BK chassis is awaiting 09 updates.

L.P.

Cool, I hope they do end up with at least 1 09 spec chassis. If Dyson and Fernandez are the only P2 entries for alms this season, and only 1 car is in 09 spec, then auto entry for LM 2010 here they come!

broadrun96 · 3 Feb 2009, 03:07 (Ref:2387076)

Why the difference in the air inlets for this versus the over the windscreen intakes I've seen on other Lolas? Is there a P2 rule for the single intake, or is that a turbo requirement?

Hugewally · 3 Feb 2009, 03:11 (Ref:2387077)

Turbo inlets are closer to the turbos...

WMUCarGuy · 3 Feb 2009, 03:29 (Ref:2387081)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

Dyson doesn't have the new wing...

Although by the time Sebring comes around they will.

I think the Lola is so far the best looking narrow wing LMP.

Canada ALMS fan · 3 Feb 2009, 03:43 (Ref:2387085)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Although by the time Sebring comes around they will.

I think the Lola is so far the best looking narrow wing LMP.

The Zytek looks pretty nice too. As for Dyson, running the '09 updates (which I'm sure they will) with the '08 rear wing will upset the balance won't it?

HORNDAWG · 3 Feb 2009, 03:50 (Ref:2387086)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

The Zytek looks pretty nice too. As for Dyson, running the '09 updates (which I'm sure they will) with the '08 rear wing will upset the balance won't it?

Huh? Why would you think 09 updates would not include a new rear wing? Only the cars in the ALMS can run with the old wing, so why would Lola create an aero update for 2 chassis? I'm pretty sure that all 09 updates will include a rear wing!

L.P.

Canada ALMS fan · 3 Feb 2009, 05:00 (Ref:2387103)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Huh? Why would you think 09 updates would not include a new rear wing? Only the cars in the ALMS can run with the old wing, so why would Lola create an aero update for 2 chassis? I'm pretty sure that all 09 updates will include a rear wing!

L.P.

I meant '08 spec wing, not the actual '08 wing, should have been clearer. But if the Dyson Mazdas with the '08 spec wing get the updates Lola WILL need to make 2 aero updates (1 for ALMS, 1 for Le Mans/LMS). The bodywork in the ALMS would need to be different as the larger rear wing will obviously have different aero effects than the narrower one for the LMS/Le Mans is what I was trying to say. Just like Peugeot with the 908 isn't just throwing a smaller rear wing on, they are re-doing the aero for the entire car as the balance will be different with less downforce at the rear.

HORNDAWG · 3 Feb 2009, 05:32 (Ref:2387107)

Hmm, let me try again. I do not think there will be an update in aero for the old style wing! All effort will be put forth on the new rules spec wing and the aero adjustment to optimize it. Once again it will only be for a single P-2 chassis (ex-BK) unless Dyson bought an 08 spec chassis, which I doubt.

L.P.

zac510 · 3 Feb 2009, 08:56 (Ref:2387170)

Wonder why Racing Box got B08/80 chassis then.. Cheaper?

MulsanneMike · 3 Feb 2009, 11:44 (Ref:2387319)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

http://www.endurance-info.com/2009_L...aLMP2_2009.jpg

I found this pic on Endurance-Info .

Its the new Lola B09 . I thought it might be an idea to have a dedicated thread as the discussion would get lost in the LMS thread .

The wing doesnt look as bad as I first thought , but it is still horrible .

Could this version be the KSM car with the single intake on the left rear ?

There's a rather significant difference in the rear end bodywork. I also understand the Lola has been struggling with cooling issues and that some of the updates will address that.

HORNDAWG · 3 Feb 2009, 14:43 (Ref:2387477)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac510

Wonder why Racing Box got B08/80 chassis then.. Cheaper?

They could very well be B08/80 chassis but with the 09 spec aero package on them. They do not even have the cars yet I believe. One would think that if they were to 08 spec that they, Lola, would of had most all the ancillary parts in the bins already as spares. It all depends when they went into build I guess, or maybe it is when they were put on the books? I am not sure exactly when then next year model is designated, either built or bought or some fiscal break?

L.P.

zac510 · 3 Feb 2009, 16:35 (Ref:2387542)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

They could very well be B08/80 chassis but with the 09 spec aero package on them. They do not even have the cars yet I believe. One would think that if they were to 08 spec that they, Lola, would of had most all the ancillary parts in the bins already as spares. It all depends when they went into build I guess, or maybe it is when they were put on the books? I am not sure exactly when then next year model is designated, either built or bought or some fiscal break?

L.P.

Are you trying to answer my question or make it even more confusing?

Aslak Vind · 4 Feb 2009, 05:26 (Ref:2387905)

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

They could very well be B08/80 chassis but with the 09 spec aero package on them. They do not even have the cars yet I believe. One would think that if they were to 08 spec that they, Lola, would of had most all the ancillary parts in the bins already as spares. It all depends when they went into build I guess, or maybe it is when they were put on the books? I am not sure exactly when then next year model is designated, either built or bought or some fiscal break?

L.P.

I would think that they are 08 spec, I dont think Lola has the 09 serobits ready yet. However Dyson did test their 08 car with a new front.

cmk · 4 Feb 2009, 15:51 (Ref:2388232)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac510

Wonder why Racing Box got B08/80 chassis then.. Cheaper?

Probably just reflects when the tubs were laid down, rather than the actual bodywork that will be on them. Lola tubs tend to be upgraded aerodynamically during their lives without re-designation.

The Badger · 4 Feb 2009, 18:17 (Ref:2388334)

I wouldnt say there was much price differance between a B08 & a B09 .

HORNDAWG · 7 Feb 2009, 18:08 (Ref:2390506)

As seen in these larger pictures posted by deggis in the LMS thread ,
http://www.endurance-info.com/2009_L...LolaRML_01.jpg
http://www.endurance-info.com/2009_L...LolaRML_02.jpg
http://www.endurance-info.com/2009_L...LolaRML_03.jpg

It seem that the larger rear fender opening is completely screened already. I am guessing that it will recieve an eyebrow tail light assembly, ala the ARX-01's, to maximize pressure relief under the wing to maximize the downforce created by the smaller wing (?). According to Art. 8.3.2 b1 & b2 pg 13 the tail lights must be as wide as the rear track and as high up on the car as possible.

L.P.

WMUCarGuy · 8 Feb 2009, 18:38 (Ref:2391191)

Looks like theres a second, smaller intake below the main turbo intake on the RML car. That's a new development for 09 I think.

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