2011 F1 Lineup ...

Chaynes321 · 21 Nov 2010, 12:11 (Ref:2793802)

Red Bull Racing-Renault

1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber

McLaren-Mercedes

3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Jenson Button

Scuderia Ferrari

5. Fernando Alonso
6. Felipe Massa

Mercedes Grand Prix

7. Michael Schumacher
8. Nico Rosberg

Renault F1 Team

9. Robert Kubica
10. Vitaly Petrov

Williams-Cosworth

11. Rubens Barrichello
12. ???

Force India-Mercedes

14. Adrian Sutil
15. Vitantonio Liuzzi ??? / Paul di Resta ???

BMW Sauber-Ferrari

16. Kamui Kobayashi
17. Sergio Perez

Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari

18. Sebastien Buemi
19. Jaime Alguersuari

Lotus-Renault

20. Heikki Kovalainen
21. Jarno Trulli

HRT F1 Team-Cosworth

22. Sakon Yamamoto / Christian Klien
23. Bruno Senna / Karun Chandhok

Virgin Racing-Cosworth

24. Timo Glock / ???
25. Lucas di Grassi / ???

Others:

Nico Hülkenberg

Nick Heidfeld

Pedro de la Rosa

Sodemo · 21 Nov 2010, 14:21 (Ref:2793835)

I think a lot of 2011 seats will depend on what M Schu decides to do. I believe there was some thought that if Michael didn't like the 2011 Pirelli tyres that he may decide to call it a day. Now, ive read that he quite liked the feel of the Pirelli rubber, so who knows. If Schu does call it a day, then I could see someone like Sutil being after the Mercedes seat.

brands · 21 Nov 2010, 14:52 (Ref:2793841)

Wouldn't Rosberg be #7 or is that another lucky number for MS

Chaynes321 · 21 Nov 2010, 16:10 (Ref:2793862)

i went for ms as the team leader because his name is ms

gwyllion · 21 Nov 2010, 17:07 (Ref:2793881)

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Originally Posted by brands

Wouldn't Rosberg be #7 or is that another lucky number for MS

Schumacher prefers odd numbers, so #7 it will be

mattt · 21 Nov 2010, 18:32 (Ref:2793907)

The odd number wasn't very lucky for him this year was it. Tbh i think its wrong if Schumacher gets the choice of numbers since he doesn't deserve it, because he LOST to his team-mate so Rosberg should get the choice of number.

Mr V · 21 Nov 2010, 21:39 (Ref:2793973)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Schumacher prefers odd numbers, so #7 it will be

I think that he was throwing his weight about before personally, trying to play mind games and Nico allowed it because he is Schumacher and lets be blunt, i'm sure that the majority of us expected Michael to be the teams number 1.

I'll be very surprised if Nico allows it for 2011 to be honest.

jab · 21 Nov 2010, 21:52 (Ref:2793982)

I'd be surprised if any of Hispania's drivers return with them next year

In fact, I'd be surprised if Hispania return at all

But if they do, it looks like it'll be de la Rosa and Pay Driver X - eyeing up Valsecchi at the moment

Virgin will be hiring one from van der Garde or d'Ambrosio

N.A-D.R · 21 Nov 2010, 22:19 (Ref:2793991)

Looks like Senna might struggle for a seat...

Jamesy-18 · 21 Nov 2010, 22:23 (Ref:2793993)

Sauber are finally allowed to drop the BMW name now as well.

Speed-freak · 21 Nov 2010, 23:39 (Ref:2794017)

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Originally Posted by Chaynes321

Red Bull Racing-Renault

1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Mark Webber

McLaren-Mercedes

3. Lewis Hamilton
4. Jenson Button

Scuderia Ferrari

5. Fernando Alonso
6. Felipe Massa

Mercedes Grand Prix

7. Michael Schumacher
8. Nico Rosberg

Renault F1 Team

9. Robert Kubica
10. Vitaly Petrov

Williams-Cosworth

11. Rubens Barrichello
12. ???

Force India-Mercedes

14. Adrian Sutil
15. Vitantonio Liuzzi ??? / Paul di Resta ???

BMW Sauber-Ferrari

16. Kamui Kobayashi
17. Sergio Perez

Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari

18. Sebastien Buemi
19. Jaime Alguersuari

Lotus-Renault

20. Heikki Kovalainen
21. Jarno Trulli

HRT F1 Team-Cosworth

22. Sakon Yamamoto / Christian Klien
23. Bruno Senna / Karun Chandhok

Virgin Racing-Cosworth

24. Timo Glock / ???
25. Lucas di Grassi / ???

Others:

Nico Hülkenberg

Nick Heidfeld

Pedro de la Rosa

How many of these guys have paid for their seats?

Sodemo · 22 Nov 2010, 14:27 (Ref:2794256)

I hope they can move back to some prettier looking cars in 2011. I think some of the 2010 cars take the ugly stick award for this decade. I really hated the look of the Sauber and the McLaren, both had a really long wheelbase, compared to the Renault which was tiny and quite short.

old man · 22 Nov 2010, 15:26 (Ref:2794279)

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Originally Posted by Speed-freak

How many of these guys have paid for their seats?

Sadly I feel we are going to have a lot of good guys next year who can't get a ride. There are two pieces on Autosport website emphasising the financial aspect of getting a drive next year and I can only feel that we are moving further away from drivers getting into F1 on merit even if such a route was always limited. The teams that can afford to pick up young drivers and school them like McLaren and Red Bull will continue to dominate and the rest will struggle to get into the top 4 slots in the teams table unless there is a major rethink on the distribution of the purse.

Ferrari of course will continue to chose only the best

It is going less a case of "how fast can you go mister?" and more "how much money you got mister?"

Hawkwood · 22 Nov 2010, 15:56 (Ref:2794306)

True, but that's always been the case to a certain extent, and indeed has been the case all the way through these guys single seater careers - they should know by now that they need money.

veeten · 22 Nov 2010, 16:10 (Ref:2794310)

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Originally Posted by Jamesy-18

Sauber are finally allowed to drop the BMW name now as well.

... and as far as they are concerned, BMW's choice to stay out of F1 isn't going to change anytime soon.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88461

Sodemo · 22 Nov 2010, 18:20 (Ref:2794362)

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Originally Posted by veeten

... and as far as they are concerned, BMW's choice to stay out of F1 isn't going to change anytime soon.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88461

And in a way, I kinda agree. Their strategy should be road car based racing. Ive always thought that F1 should be primarily a teams championship, perhaps using works engines. Marques like McLaren, Ferrari, Lotus perhaps belong in F1 due to their pedigree, but I don't really understand from a PR point of view where companies like Honda, Toyota, BMW, Renault get their bang per buck...

Renault would be better off sticking to their Renault World Series, to the average joe it says;

"hey look! we are interested in racing, performance, we are hi-tech, we like the sporty image racing gets and its now associated with our brand, please buy our cars".

That is pretty much the mantra of any PR machine that goes into motorsport.

**chunterer** · 22 Nov 2010, 20:36 (Ref:2794430)

It's really only the second Genii, Williams, Virgin and both HRT's that are open now isn't it?

Related thread: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123944

Please might I suggest that a merge might be good folks?

Hawkwood · 22 Nov 2010, 22:50 (Ref:2794494)

According to VJ Mallya both seats at FI are open.

http://en.espnf1.com/forceindia/moto...ory/34744.html

http://en.espnf1.com/forceindia/moto...ory/34904.html

E.B · 23 Nov 2010, 10:55 (Ref:2794643)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunterer

It's really only the second Genii, Williams, Virgin and both HRT's that are open now isn't it?

Related thread: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123944

Please might I suggest that a merge might be good folks?

Seconded.

SJA · 24 Nov 2010, 10:38 (Ref:2795112)

Jamesy-18 · 24 Nov 2010, 21:25 (Ref:2795385)

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Originally Posted by Ostrogothicus

According to VJ Mallya both seats at FI are open.

http://en.espnf1.com/forceindia/moto...ory/34744.html

http://en.espnf1.com/forceindia/moto...ory/34904.html

Best scenario: get Heidfeld and Hulkenberg as the two drivers, pleasing Mercedes with two German drivers, then they still get the money off engines (if there was any substance to that rumour).

They'd have a good balance of experience and youth and two handy drivers too. Sutil can go to Merc reserve role.

I hope FI doesn't turn into a bidding contest with who can bring the most funding, although I fear it could end that way if the rumours of them being short for cash are true...

WapFlap · 24 Nov 2010, 22:11 (Ref:2795403)

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Originally Posted by Sodemo

I don't really understand from a PR point of view where companies like Renault get their bang per buck...

For Renault it is to increase brand awareness I think. Its a brand that is strong in Europe and some other parts, but not quite strong in others. F1 can provide this.

strider · 25 Nov 2010, 01:15 (Ref:2795453)

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Originally Posted by SJA

Very nicely presented, SJA, but where are you getting your confirmation for some of these places? Is it partly what you would like to see?

Skam85 · 25 Nov 2010, 02:10 (Ref:2795462)

Something of note - Franz Tost not gauranteeing Buemi's drive 100%..

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/165240/...r_line-up.html

Hawkwood · 27 Nov 2010, 01:43 (Ref:2796274)

Well Ricciardo is STR's 3rd driver next year and will get Friday outings aswell as doing WSR. So a slight reprieve for Buemi but heaven help either of them if Ricciardo is faster on the Fridays and they have a bad start to the season...

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