|
| Site Partners: | SpotterGuides | Veloce Books |
| Related Sites: | Your Link Here |
|
|
|||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
||||||||||
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 13:53 (Ref:714111)
|
#1 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,332
 |
Turkish GP
F1-Live has a short article that says the foundations for the circuit in Kurtkoy, Turkey have started to be built, and that they plan to begin running GPs there from 2005.
Has anyone seen a proposed track layout for this place? It is described as a 5.3km track with a longest straight of 928m and 15 turns... is it another Tilke-ring? (shiny hopes not...  )
|
||
|
__________________
Juliette Bravo! Juliette Bravo!!!! 
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 14:09 (Ref:714122)
|
#2 | ||
 Race Official20KPINAL
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 21,606
 |
If they want to run F1 races, it must be a Tilke-ring...
|
||
|
|
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman An' I'll show you somebody who will
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 14:16 (Ref:714127)
|
#3 | |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
I doubt it, as Turkey will also introduce a ban on tobacco advertising since they really want to be part of the European Union... (bugger off i say)
|
|
|
|
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 14:17 (Ref:714128)
|
#4 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 13,211
|
I wonder what Bernie hopes to gain out of a GP of Turkey?
According to a report in this weeks Autosport mag..... Ministry of health under secretary Necdet Unuvar said of the '05 gp..."Tobacco commercials will not be allowed. If anyone asks, we will say tobacco adverts are not appropriate" |
||
|
|
__________________
That's so frickin uncool man!
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 14:35 (Ref:714141)
|
#5 | ||
|
14th
1% Club
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,857
|
Yes I'd heard that, if anything, Turkey will be even worse for trying to have tobacco sponsorship.
|
||
|
|
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 15:02 (Ref:714167)
|
#6 | |||
|
Forum Host
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 6,529
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
|
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 15:34 (Ref:714193)
|
#7 | |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
I really doubt that Bernie and Co. will effectively ban tobacco advertising in F1.
But then again, there's rumours of a 10 year contract for Spa-Francorchamps so anything can happen. |
|
|
|
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 16:19 (Ref:714240)
|
#8 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 12,451
|
I went to Turkey in 1969. That was enough.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"If we won all the time, we'd be as unpopular as Ferrari, and we want to avoid that. We enjoy being a team that everybody likes." Flavio Briatore
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 16:29 (Ref:714248)
|
#9 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,885
|
From what I've heard, it hasn't exactly developed since then.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"Never pick a fight with an ugly person, they've got nothing to lose."
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 16:39 (Ref:714263)
|
#10 | ||
|
Forum Host
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 6,529
|
Well 1 dollar is more than a million Turks, so at least were all millionaires in Turkey !!
Anyway coming back to F1 and the whole Tobacco thing only time will tell if Bernie and all are serious or not. Teams like Jordon etc could have real problems in finding a top sponsor if Tobacco sponsoring is banned |
||
|
|
__________________
A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I thought you looked a bit off."
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 16:49 (Ref:714285)
|
#11 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,332
|
If teams remain sponsored by tobacco and the races just move to countries where it is still allowed, seems like the auto manufacturers would start to lose interest in F1... granted, they sell cars all over the world, but when your home market is excluded from being able to go see your $10million moving billboard, why would you want to keep footing that bill at the same astronomical costs??
|
||
|
|
__________________
Juliette Bravo! Juliette Bravo!!!!
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 17:11 (Ref:714333)
|
#12 | |||
|
Race Official 20KPINAL
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 21,606
|
Quote:
|
|||
|
|
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman An' I'll show you somebody who will
|
|
10 Sep 2003, 19:44 (Ref:714465)
|
#13 | |
|
Race Official Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 8,957
|
More importantly what is the least they can walk away with in Turkey's Who Wants to be a Millionaire ? :confused:
|
|
|
|
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 03:04 (Ref:714625)
|
#14 | ||
|
Racer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 286
|
Where can I see the track layout?
|
||
|
|
__________________
BMW+Williams+Montoya+Alonso=Dream Team!
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 06:53 (Ref:714699)
|
#15 | |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
It's not on e-tracks, i already searched there.
Maybe someone else knows another track database site? |
|
|
|
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 07:51 (Ref:714750)
|
#16 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 1,135
|
It seems as though the Turkish F1 GP track layout pictures are trying to make themselves as sparse as possible.
I found one, not sure how correct or in scale it is....but....here it is. It really doesnt look that disgusting. Hockenheim, the the US look worse. Out of Bahrain, Shanghai and this one, i think this is a pretty nice track. No crappy twirling first corner at least. http://www.krtdirect.com/graphics/pr...cs%2F008%2F987 Sorry, couldn't attach it, but you will see it. |
||
|
|
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 10:00 (Ref:714846)
|
#17 | ||
|
14th
1% Club
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,857
|
There is also a birds eye in Autosport today, different diagram to twig's, but the same layout.
Last edited by Adam43; 11 Sep 2003 at 10:00. |
||
|
|
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 10:57 (Ref:714887)
|
#18 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 1999
Posts: 12,451
|
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shiny side up!
If teams remain sponsored by tobacco and the races just move to countries where it is still allowed, seems like the auto manufacturers would start to lose interest in F1... granted, they sell cars all over the world, but when your home market is excluded from being able to go see your $10million moving billboard, why would you want to keep footing that bill at the same astronomical costs?? [/QUOTE You mean countries besides Canada (which buys very few high end cars anyway) are going to ban the TELEVISED race too? Or perhaps they can move it to The Sex Channel to make it less likely that babies will watch? Anyway it'll be fun to watch what Bernie does and how the world reacts.
|
||
|
|
__________________
"If we won all the time, we'd be as unpopular as Ferrari, and we want to avoid that. We enjoy being a team that everybody likes." Flavio Briatore
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:10 (Ref:714895)
|
#19 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,332
|
Looks like a fairly interesting layout. Also of note is it appears to run counterclockwise...
|
||
|
|
__________________
Juliette Bravo! Juliette Bravo!!!!
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:10 (Ref:714896)
|
#20 | ||
|
Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,491
 |
Wouldn't it be dangerous if Turkeys started running onto the track?
|
||
|
|
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:15 (Ref:714901)
|
#21 | |
|
Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,979
|
Pitlane exit is placed before the final turn?
Weird... |
|
|
|
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:24 (Ref:714912)
|
#22 | |
|
Rookie
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 22
|
Hello All
This is my first response, forgive me if I cock anything up. With regards to the Turkish GP layout, try www.racingcircuits.net. The site has stacks of layouts old and new, including the proposed Turkish GP layout. It also has photo's too. Well worth a look at. |
|
|
|
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:38 (Ref:714932)
|
#23 | ||
|
Race Official 20KPINAL
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 21,606
|
Looks like an interesting layout, the pit entrance and exit can make difference in the outcome. I wonder if there are up and down hills there... :confused:
|
||
|
|
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman An' I'll show you somebody who will
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:39 (Ref:714933)
|
#24 | ||
|
14th
1% Club
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 42,857
|
Oh I tried there last night, couldn't find the new one (didn't look very hard though). I'll try again, thanks for the tip and welsome to Ten-tenths Eau Rouge Flat.
There are some great photos on that site especially of the old Spa. It is great to compare new and old. |
||
|
|
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
|
|
11 Sep 2003, 11:39 (Ref:714934)
|
#25 | ||
|
Race Official 20KPINAL
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 21,606
|
...and... it's a Tilke design.
|
||
|
|
__________________
Show me a man who won't give it to his woman An' I'll show you somebody who will
|
 |
|
|
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Greetings from a turkish marshal | mughettina | Marshals Forum | 13 | 19 Sep 2005 12:11 |
| Turkish Touring Car Championship | JerH77 | Touring Car Racing | 9 | 11 Sep 2005 07:42 |
| Turkish GP | Peter Mallett | Trackside | 18 | 22 Aug 2005 07:01 |
Linear Mode
