BBC Sports Personalities of the Year

**Adam43** · 6 Dec 2003, 01:09 (Ref:805299)

There is no chance of a motor racing sportsman winning this year, but our sport has done pretty well in the past.

1959: John Surtees
1961: Stiring Moss
1973: Jackie Stewart
1986: Nigel Mansell
1992: Nigel Mansell
1994: Damon Hill
1996: Damon Hill

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...03/3244608.stm

The BBC site also talks about some who didn't win it including Graham Hill, Jim Clark and James Hunt http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...03/3173902.stm

Odd that Graham didn't win it, because he features a lot on old footage of the awards. However he was a fantastic spokesman for the sport and a great speaker in general (oh and top laugh!).

Kojima_KE007 · 6 Dec 2003, 01:21 (Ref:805301)

Shame that James Hunt didn't win the award back in 1976 having won the championship that year and that season is still regarded as one of the best in Formula One history.

Wrex · 6 Dec 2003, 01:57 (Ref:805308)

Did all the other Brit's pull out of sport in 94 & 96?

**Adam43** · 6 Dec 2003, 10:10 (Ref:805424)

Well I was questoning the use of the word personality for one of them above. '94 Damon got a lot of support for the way he dealt with the season.

Interestingly on Nigel, Damon and Henry Cooper are teh only people to have won it twice.

Anyway, I couldn't find a list of overseas winners. Has this ever been won by a motor racing star? And has a motor racing team ever won the team prize?

**Adam43** · 6 Dec 2003, 10:16 (Ref:805429)

Found the answers, always helps to look in the obvious places www.bbc.co.uk

1960 Cooper Racing Team
1962 BRM Motor Racing Team

1977 Nicki (sic) Lauda

There we go. Any chance of Micheal winning it this year?

kdr · 6 Dec 2003, 10:20 (Ref:805431)

he might win overseas personality, which isn't voted for by the public i think...the bbc make the call on that one.

although i like schuey, i'd far prefer if it was lance.

Red · 6 Dec 2003, 10:21 (Ref:805432)

Oh, BBC? Ahem..

PS: It's always cool to learn that a racing team has personality...

DriverT · 6 Dec 2003, 15:44 (Ref:805573)

Tell it to McLaren, Red

BigFella · 6 Dec 2003, 16:53 (Ref:805606)

And this years " personality " will be someone people know nothing about and I think i've only heard speak once.

kdr · 6 Dec 2003, 18:56 (Ref:805669)

yes but he helped england win a world cup.

sadly not THE world cup though...

DSM · 6 Dec 2003, 20:40 (Ref:805703)

"And this years " personality " will be someone people know nothing about and I think i've only heard speak once."

Rather unfair, presumably you're not an RL fan. Speaking as someone with an interest in both F1 and RL, I'd bet there would be more recognition outside of both sports of Wilkinson than e.g. Ralph Firman or Justin Wilson.

**Adam43** · 7 Dec 2003, 16:33 (Ref:806092)

Quote:

Originally posted by Red
PS: It's always cool to learn that a racing team has personality...

Does that happen often then?

I think a team can have a personality, despite the inclusion of the word person in it. Hence the passion that Ferrari enjoys. Teams can be a great personality as all the members contribute to it. Surely this is why most people like certain teams - because of the personality, or the way they do things.

ensign14 · 7 Dec 2003, 18:34 (Ref:806129)

Perhaps more astonishing is the fact that the last motor racing team to win the team award was BRM in 1962. One would have thought that winning 15 out of 16 races in 1988 would have been worthy of commemoration, but it was Olympic year and the men's hockey team's unexpected gold swung it their way.

But how on earth the British equestrian team beat McLaren in 1984 is a total mystery. Perhaps they had a jump-off?

johnw · 7 Dec 2003, 19:51 (Ref:806158)

Quote:

Originally posted by Wrex
Did all the other Brit's pull out of sport in 94 & 96?

Four years bragging rights this end. Stop trying wrex.

BigFella · 7 Dec 2003, 20:56 (Ref:806179)

Quote:

Rather unfair, presumably you're not an RL fan. Speaking as someone with an interest in both F1 and RL, I'd bet there would be more recognition outside of both sports of Wilkinson than e.g. Ralph Firman or Justin Wilson.

the point I was making is that it's the sports PERSONALITY of the year, and most people who will vote didn't even know the guy existed a month ago. I was attacking the award and why people vote for who they do, not having a go at the man himself, for shutting the aussies up for a while deserves more than a BBC award!

**Adam43** · 7 Dec 2003, 23:59 (Ref:806297)

Just noticed there is a more general discussion on the sports personality here: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=46832 rather than this specific F1 past and present.

Red · 8 Dec 2003, 06:29 (Ref:806412)

Quote:

Originally posted by AdamAshmore
I think a team can have a personality, despite the inclusion of the word person in it

Of course teams have "personality" (as in character). Well, most of them, at least.

However I really don't believe that this was the intent of BBC's poll. Even though I am a Ferrari fan, I wouldn't vote the team as the personality of the year.

Besides, personality is being a person, or behavior that characterizes a person. Nominating/voting 2 racing teams, is a kinda insulting to persons who actually were part of those teams.

**Adam43** · 8 Dec 2003, 22:17 (Ref:807005)

We can vote for the best BBC personality of the year ever!

I only caught one number 0901 198 1101. Damon, a man who behaved with great dignity in 1994 to lead the Williams team. Doing the sport a favour in a difficult year. And then two years later clinched the title.

ensign14 · 8 Dec 2003, 22:34 (Ref:807019)

Quote:

Originally posted by AdamAshmore
We can vote for the best BBC personality of the year ever!

SHould be Sir Steve Redgrave. Not only the greatest sporting achievement by a Briton, but one fo the greatest sporting achievements EVER. On a par with Ali's 3 world titles or Bradman's test average.

**Adam43** · 8 Dec 2003, 22:35 (Ref:807020)

Sorry, but that isn't F1, I must insist you keep on topic

Pitbabe · 9 Dec 2003, 12:10 (Ref:807399)

I think Damon should be considered for the best ever Sports Personality. Totally agree with what Adam wrote.

Pitbabe · 9 Dec 2003, 13:28 (Ref:807454)

Also, how about Valentino Rossi for overseas personality? Not only did the Beeb actually show some MotoGP (when they could be bothered), but Vale has LOTS of personality

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