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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:02 (Ref:930031)   #1
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Klien "The Overtaker"

Well he made Kimi look pretty ordinary,obviously not afraid to have a go at anyone,even in a Jag,way to go,F1 needs more guys like this one,keep an eye on him
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:03 (Ref:930032)   #2
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yeah yeah... great stuff from Klein... not afraid to have a go at the big boys...
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:04 (Ref:930035)   #3
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Good stuff. I thought the same.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:39 (Ref:930080)   #4
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Re: Klien "The Overtaker"

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Well he made Kimi look pretty ordinary,
Not really. being overtaken doens't make you pants. IIRC Kimi had got ahead before his engine blew. I don't see how it reflects badly on Kimi at all.
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obviously not afraid to have a go at anyone,
Yes it was great stuff. Needs a little refining, but I really enjoyed it and it shows he has the balls to go for it.
More of it please Klein. Apart from the start he had a top weekend. A match for Webber over the last few days (equally this does not reflect badly on Webber).
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:48 (Ref:930096)   #5
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A rookie who isn't afraid to overtake but doesnt crash out taking another driver out with him. Hooray! Well done Klein look forward to seing more.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:50 (Ref:930098)   #6
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Re: Re: Klien "The Overtaker"

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Not really. being overtaken doens't make you pants. IIRC Kimi had got ahead before his engine blew. I don't see how it reflects badly on Kimi at all.

Yes it was great stuff. Needs a little refining, but I really enjoyed it and it shows he has the balls to go for it.
More of it please Klein. Apart from the start he had a top weekend. A match for Webber over the last few days (equally this does not reflect badly on Webber).

Totally agreed, Adam.

I've never understood why some people feel they can only praise a driver by slagging off another.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:56 (Ref:930106)   #7
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arrrrr it's Klien not Klein
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 19:57 (Ref:930110)   #8
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that's what you get for typing quickly. I dare say I have also said that Micheal won today's race. My apologises could not be more humbler.

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Old 4 Apr 2004, 20:47 (Ref:930162)   #9
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More to the point, a circuit on which it is possible to overtake and retake. Something clearly went wrong in the planning stages...
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 20:55 (Ref:930175)   #10
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If I'm honest I didn't think much of Klien at all when jaguar signed him and my opinion didn't change much in the first couple of races but I liked his attitude today and hope that we'll see more of it!!
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 20:57 (Ref:930180)   #11
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Top overtaking action from Klien!
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 21:02 (Ref:930190)   #12
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It was a great move and I think he'll be one to keep an eye on in the future.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 21:16 (Ref:930210)   #13
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Two things came out in my option today:

Firstly he proved he is in F1 because he has the skill and determination. Yes he went off a few times but this is only his third race and the fight he was putting up with Kimi etc... showed he knows how to take it to the big boys when he can.

Secondly Jaguar stated they would only give him half a season to beat his team mate.... um so does that mean Webber is fired if he continues in this manner? I think if Jag get rid of him it will show the type of badly run company they are but that's a rant to replied to in another thread if your so inclinded!
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 21:28 (Ref:930225)   #14
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Secondly Jaguar stated they would only give him half a season to beat his team mate.... um so does that mean Webber is fired if he continues in this manner? I think if Jag get rid of him it will show the type of badly run company they are but that's a rant to replied to in another thread if your so inclinded!
IN what manner ? oh YOU must mean coming from 15th to 8th !!!What are you on about ?

I think Klien drove a great race as did Mark as the Jag look to have not like this track well done to both drivers
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 21:57 (Ref:930246)   #15
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me thinks mr. klien may have opened a few eyes around the f1 paddock this weekend....
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 22:51 (Ref:930289)   #16
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The guy dserves his seat on merit if he contiues to push as hard as he did today! He has a lot to learn but he knows and acknowledges that. Nothing else to say really. The doubters were wrong about him ... and the R5...
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 22:51 (Ref:930291)   #17
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Let's not get carried away here - he only made one move that actually stuck for a couple of corners on Kimi (who had a dog of a car, a sick engine and a tank-load of fuel) - many of his attempts he ran wide and lost the place immediately after trying, losing himself time. And how many other cars did he genuinely overtake during the rest of the race? None.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 22:58 (Ref:930298)   #18
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He is being hailed as the next Niki Lauda. In regards to his battle with KR, Brundle figured that the McLaren was carrying double the fuel load.

Klien is putting up a better fight than Pizza man ever did.
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Old 4 Apr 2004, 23:00 (Ref:930300)   #19
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I'm with Cos... diving under someone and not keeping it is not really a pass. Good stuff though. Looks like the Jags have found some top end too.
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Old 5 Apr 2004, 01:09 (Ref:930385)   #20
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So he didn't make the moves stick.So what.He is young and it was his third race.Give the kid some credit please.He has shown other more experienced drivers IT IS POSSIBLE TO PASS IN F1.I seem to remember at the start of the season some saying he only got the seat due to his sponsers dollars.Some of thoose people are still having a go at him because the moves didn't stick.
Think back to when Michael or Senna first started.They made the same mistakes.I am not saying hes as good as but the potentials there.

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He's done a lot better than I thought he would. He's actually the first teammate to outqualify Webber (I think), he's brought it home 3 out of 3 and he's getting faster and having a go. What more do you want out of a guy with 3 F1 starts in a cr@p car?
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Old 5 Apr 2004, 01:49 (Ref:930411)   #22
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Jaguar a **** car? I'm not so sure! I think it may lack an overall balance which would enable it to be strong on a number of different circuits, but it has potential. It has shown flashes of speed and I think as long as the development is there it couild surprise by mid-season.
Having said that, Top Job Klien! Showed good speed and aggression and proved a lot of doubters wrong.
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Pizzonia outqualified Webber at Silverstone and was fired!
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He was very impressive indeed. It's nice to see that the second driver at Jaguar is FINALLY able to succeed. I'm not convinced that the others guys couldn't drive fast. I think part of the reason Klien looked so good was that no one knew the track so the playing field was leveled a bit. Also Webber had some troubles, but Klien was faster period.
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Old 5 Apr 2004, 03:53 (Ref:930459)   #25
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Klein did very well for an inexperienced driver. The moves may not have stuck, but at least he was having a go. Good to see from a young driver, not afraid of mixing it with superior cars and drivers.
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