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Old 17 May 2002, 08:59 (Ref:288685)   #1
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Dario's new colours

Apparently Franchitti's car is going to sport new livery in Milwaukee. A picture that I've seen shows him practicing in a blue car, and so I'm going to suggest that maybe he will be advertising Rothmans. That brand, along with KOOL and many others, are all owned by British American Tobacco. Because KOOL is mainly an American brand, perhaps Rothmans could benefit from CART's increasing international market. Just guessing here...
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Old 17 May 2002, 17:48 (Ref:289069)   #2
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the Williams-Renault F1 cars sponsored by Rothmans were very nice looking!
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Old 17 May 2002, 22:33 (Ref:289167)   #3
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How abt a pic of the car, or at least a link to it?
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Old 18 May 2002, 04:17 (Ref:289273)   #4
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Hrmmm, I thought BAT could only advertise one brand of tobacco in Champ Cars?
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Old 18 May 2002, 08:34 (Ref:289341)   #5
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Here's the pic I found. Apparently it's from the Mid-Ohio test just the other day.

From autosport.com:

"Franchitti was having his first run in a Lola chassis, which was painted in a new colour scheme set to be unveiled at the next Champ Car round at Milwaukee."

http://www.autosport.com/newsitem.cfm?id=19005&series=7

As for anything I said about Rothmans, I'm merely speculating.
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Old 18 May 2002, 10:33 (Ref:289378)   #6
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Nice car, even without any sponsors on it.
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Old 18 May 2002, 11:03 (Ref:289383)   #7
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Maybe it's another type of KOOL tobacco, or something...
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Old 18 May 2002, 15:52 (Ref:289516)   #8
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Very nice! Too bad it'll soon be littered with sponsors..

But, that's the sport!
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Old 18 May 2002, 16:28 (Ref:289524)   #9
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Kool cigarettes now come in a blue package, as opposed to the traditional green. Maybe that's the reason for Dario's new colors.
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Old 18 May 2002, 23:12 (Ref:289793)   #10
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jcclausen is probably right. This link shows a blue KOOL packaging.

http://www.brownandwilliamson.com/Index_sub2.cfm?ID=11
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Old 20 May 2002, 13:09 (Ref:290335)   #11
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well, i like the colours, but too bad that it is being dictated by a Tobacco Company cant wait until they get banned
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well, i like the colours, but too bad that it is being dictated by a Tobacco Company cant wait until they get banned
Y'know, I feel so weird about this. I _hate_ the tobacco companies, I think they're as close to pure evil as there is. But I don't mind it one bit when they're paying so I can watch good racing!

And so many of my favorite liveries are tobacco sponsors. The black and gold JPS Lotuses. The Rothmans 956s and Williams F1 cars. A.J. Foyt's Copenhagen livery. The Silk Cut Jaguars. And of course, the old red & white Marlboro livery.

It's a good move forward socially and politically, but I feel like we're losing an intrinsic element in racing. And more importantly, who will be the companies to now step up and throw all this money at racing?!

The one other thing about the tobacco companies. They never asked drivers to _directly_ endorse their products. I don't think I've ever seen a race driver smoke. Basically every other type of primary sponsor, though, will demand drivers do commercials and publicity appearances.
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Old 20 May 2002, 16:13 (Ref:290580)   #13
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The thing that hurts me more is that Player's, who has given so much support to young drivers, will be forced to quit.
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That's the dilemma, even though Cigarettes companies are "evil", they are obviously what keeps motor racing all around the world, alive. Offhand, I don't know how can F1, CART, and Nascar stay alive once all the tobacco companies are forced to withdraw?? Unless the "good" (non-tobacco) sponsors like Coke Cola,McDonald's,etc... can step in, motorsports could very welll become extinct!
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Motorsports wont become extinct, but they may very soon become more cost-effective without the tobacco money to spread around.
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Old 20 May 2002, 22:45 (Ref:290915)   #16
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Old 20 May 2002, 23:39 (Ref:290955)   #17
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The press has reported that Franchitti's got a new paint job. If it's the same as the picture, I don't know. Franchitti's helmet in the pic, though.
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Old 21 May 2002, 02:04 (Ref:291058)   #18
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I don't think there'll be a problem. Cigarette sponsorship was banned from Australian motorsport years ago. At first, it was pretty difficult for some, but now Australian companies spend more sponsorship $$$ on local motorsport than any other sport. Others will step up, but it is important that the TV product is of a high quality.
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daddy of mac- that's Dario's helmet alright
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Old 21 May 2002, 22:41 (Ref:291982)   #20
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Old 22 May 2002, 03:51 (Ref:292113)   #21
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I hope so - I'm going to be finding out soon...
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Old 24 May 2002, 05:36 (Ref:294372)   #24
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Right on, Laagri! That's great news! How "soon" is "soon"?
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