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16 May 2001, 17:09 (Ref:93275)
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Faking Pit Stops
Having watched the race with my Dad this weekend, when Ferrari pulled their fake pitstop he said it used to be illegal to do this.
Anyone have any info on when it became legal or was illegal? Why is it legal?... not only is it a safety risk but also puts other pitting teams at a disadvantage being forced to drive around the Ferrari guys. |
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16 May 2001, 17:12 (Ref:93279)
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I actually comented to my dad at the time that I thought it was illegal, but I suppose its not.
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16 May 2001, 17:24 (Ref:93285)
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Remember we are talking about an action by the Ferrari team, and therefore just because no action was taken by the FIA doesn't mean its legal.
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16 May 2001, 19:24 (Ref:93320)
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it's illegal to have people in the pitlane unless you're doing a pitstop, or moving your airguns for the other teams, isn't it?
mind you, aren't team orders illegal too? |
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16 May 2001, 19:41 (Ref:93327)
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You hit the nail on the head, the old ferrari are outside the rules rule strikes again.
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16 May 2001, 19:46 (Ref:93329)
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The Mechanics are only allowed in the pit lane on the lap that the car is making it's way to the pits..Why do you assume Ferrari were faking?? It is quite conceivable that Ross Brawn said "okay guys this lap" and then changed his mind
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16 May 2001, 19:57 (Ref:93335)
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Quite right, It could have been that the pitwall changed their minds, or perhaps the driver didn't get the signal or even missed the pit entrance.
These will certainly be the excuses used, but on the balance of probability it was a bit of good old fashioned gamesmanship |
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16 May 2001, 22:09 (Ref:93383)
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wahey, here begins another round of ferrari bashing?
for goodness sakes, cant they do anything right? |
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16 May 2001, 22:54 (Ref:93408)
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There is nothing wrong with faking pit-stops. In Nascar it happens all the time. It's just a part of the game. I'm just glad(for my sake) that DC didn't fall for it.
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16 May 2001, 23:27 (Ref:93417)
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I agree Raul. It is simply part of the tactical game and contributes to the interest of the race.
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16 May 2001, 23:27 (Ref:93418)
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Ferrari cheating AGAIN?? Why am I not surprised.... utter UTTER balls.
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17 May 2001, 03:02 (Ref:93458)
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Ok thanks for the input.
I really don't think that faking pit stops works all that effectivly in F1 anyhow. In CART and NASCAR having the leader fake on yellow flags can make a BIG difference to other teams. But in F1 the teams have the strategy pretty much worked out at the start and don't rely on yellow flags to change things. I would think that if anything it would work against the team. My guess is that if Ferrari fakes then McLaren (or possibly Williams) would tell their drivers to start to put some quick laps to work on building up a gap. |
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17 May 2001, 05:48 (Ref:93493)
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Going back to the comment that it would make another driver drive around the ferrari team's mechanics, are cars allowed to drive through another team's pit space? I really don't know this. As for it being illegal or otherwise, surely somebody must know hte rules - we have guys here going to the FIA site and coming back with the precise rules.
I'll go along with Mr Ed in that the other team would tell their guy to run a few hot laps, and that would make it even worse for the team pulling off such a stunt. Last edited by Valve Bounce; 17 May 2001 at 05:50. |
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17 May 2001, 12:19 (Ref:93548)
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Er,
Was I dreaming, or did McLaren do it twice before RB pitted and then leave DC out for four extra laps? 
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