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AutoSport Le Mans Supplement
I have just picked up today's Autosport and expected it to have a Le Mans supplement as it usually does a week ahead of the race. But there isn't one, will it be in next weeks magazine instead? (There is no mention of one that I could find).
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Tehat's kinda pointless then.. most of us will be in Le Mans by the time it comes out!
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It's in next weeks edition.
I ascertained this info. from telephoning the editorial number in the magazine. They were quite surprised at my comment that it has historically always been included with the magazine issued in the week before people start to travel to France so that you could take it with you. When I said that a high proportion of travellers will have left the U.K. before next Thursday she said that there will be around 20,000 copies of Autosport for sale at the race and a team is going over so that hopefully they will be available on Thursday. I'm not convinced this has been thought out very well unless the ploy is to make many regular subscribers buy another copy at the track in order to have the guide with them. Too cynical? I expect to some of you I am. Last edited by jna; 7 Jun 2007 at 12:12. |
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Autosport Le Mans Supplement (merged)
Am I going nuts?
Shouldn't it have been included with today's issue? I can't see any mention of it. This time next week I'll be on my way - its always been out the week before Le Mans week - hasn't it???? ![]() |
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Hmm thought so!! Will check when i go to buy my copy shortly !!
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Let me know if I'm just missing it, will you? I get it mine by subscription - and I only have the subscription because of this week and the week after Le Mans!! If they've stopped doing the guide my complaints are going to be very bitter indeed....... (And if they haven't and they've just missed mine - boy are they gonna know about it......
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The same question was asked over on Club Arnage and this was the response. I just phoned the Autosport office at Haymarket publishing & spoke to a very helpful lass. The guide will be out next week, the decision to do this was taken for two reasons: 1) People tend to travel out later these days. 2) It will allow them to include more info from the test day. There are 'significant extra shipments to France' arranged. Usually available at the Radio Le Mans shop. Lucky the Club Arnage Guide has come the rescue and is already out, including photos from the test day and many more useful items ![]() |
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Hmm. I think thats very short sighted indeed. I've been getting my Le Mans Guide every year for over 20 years at this time and I'm sure there are thousands who, like me, don't want to wait until next week. And I suppose it'll still be that crappy little A5 size? They were so much better in the 80s and 90s...... As you say, we have the excellent CA Guide - I think some enterprising soul ought to publish that - they could make a fortune (for charity or themselves). Good photos in there too eh?
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Still I watched the Endurance mag prog on Motors this afternoon which went some way to ease my Autosport dissapointment. The Pesca's looked good, perhaps with a wet 'ish race they may pull off the big one, all that diesel torque could prove tricky to tame. |
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I checked out Autosport today and was also very surprised at the absence of a guide - I remember (
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No guide. Pathetic.
Hopefully Lewis' fuel corrected lap times will have been calculated though. Last edited by Adam43; 7 Jun 2007 at 17:50. |
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This means that North Americans will get the Le Mans guide on Monday the 18th.
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The Good People at Motoring News (sic) have managed to produce their, 12 page, guide in this week's issue.
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Yeah really dissapointing from Autosport
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Erm.....did anyone see a copy of Autosport on sale at Le Mans ? I didn't.....
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As mentioned on 0157 last night, EVO magazine has a very decent LM guide, which I thought was Haymarket being clever and getting people to buy EVO rather than Autosprout, because most people going to LM will be Autosprout anyway. Looking again though, EVO isn't a Haymarket magazine, so that knackers that idea!
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I fear the days of my Autosport subscription are now numbered, after about 22 years. I just can't put up with the way the magazine has changed so much and the way they treat my personal favourite area of the sport..... If it had been the British GP Guide I doubt that the approach would have been so cavalier. I mean, couldn't possible disappoint all the Lewis Hamilton fans could they.... (and I am one, by the way!).
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Well that means they will not be getting my money this year, must have bought Autosport every year since I have been going, where do they get thier ideas from, from the post here and all the people I know most people are going earlier each year certainly not later.
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GREAT NEWS !!
According to his fuel-corrected times and perfect-lap splits, Lewis actually WON Monaco by 2.5 laps !! Watch the cover in 2 weeks, after a Brit wins Le Mans yet again, banging on about Lewis and how he WOULD have won except.... cont on page 75 I'm rooting for him to take the Championship but God help us when he DOES win. Interesting experiment might be to count the number of Lewis front covers at the end of the year. My bet would be somewhere around 45 of the 51 will have him on... Just like when Mansell was on EVERY week in the 90s. Boosts the circulation, don't you know... ![]() |
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Don't get me started on fuel corrected laps. It is such bad science, not outline of assumptions, not criteria and no errors. Shoddily presented and poorly explained, it wouldn't even get past a first glance for a proper publication.
For years I have defended them, but I am moving towards the Aysedasi stance. Shall we ring up within a few minutes of each other to cancel the subscription? |
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But sadly, they're not interested in sportscar fans' opinions. It all comes down to selling copies to punters in WH Smiths. The sportscar fans and participants have largely been turned off, long ago.
I'm glad it's not just me who is terminally bored by all that fuel corrected stuff. I bet Button has some interesting opinions on the ups and downs of being on the cover. MC |
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I gave up on Autosport some years back, when they dropped the lap charts from F1 races, and started getting 'glossy' instead of techie!
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indeed, mr grey, your 18 yo does love it- but i see no sense in publsihing the guide when the evnt is already going on, and large number of fans are already there.
and yes, there is little sportscar news, but it is a hundred times better than motorsport news, who went as far as to attempt to destroy the Silverstone TT meeting via an opinion column just the other week. as long as there are reports and a good guide, i don't mind. HOWEVER- Motorsport News has a Le Mans guide this week. it won't be as good, but it is out. |
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