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Radio Le Mans 2007 - How Was it For You?
(Yes, I am still here - just recovering now after going back to work following a week of doing very little last week - plenty of catching up to do now......
![]() As you know, I have a pal who is an RLM stalwart and, if its OK, he'd like to pose this question through me. As far as I'm concerned, I don't listen to RLM except on Wednesday (back at home for qually) and then during the race itself, but this year I did listen to a lot of the race on RLM. I personally thought the coverage was very good indeed - it always helps to keep me going through the night! Anyone else have anythoughts - particularely those of you who either listened at other times or listened back at home on the web? |
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I was there so hope am still allowed to answer
![]() I listened during test weekend, a little during quali and through the race itself... |
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I regret that I'm old enough to have been to Le Mans in the pre RLM days, when the only way you had much of a clue about what was going on was a few minutes of English commentary every hour over the PA system - if you could hear it (in the days when the cars made a 'proper' noise!
![]() IMHO Le Mans without RLM would be a much less enjoyable experience - it would be churlish in the extreme to critise any of the output - and just try and imagine what it would be like without it. They do a great job and long may they continue ![]() |
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I forgot my radio at one point in the race and was completely and utterly lost as to what on earth was going on. each of the presenters has his own style, and regardless of whether or not you like that style...there's someone for everyone.
Plus...great this year for telling you theres a sharp shower heading your way! |
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Our group did, in fact, go to bed Sunday morning, and was it ever great to wake up at 6am, stuff the earbuds in, and hear Paul T tell me what had happened in our 3 hours away.
I always found it to be excellent additional information when watching on Speed; trackside, it's everything. |
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As always some of our group kept saying that it was not as good as last year, but they say that every year and still would not be without it.
I enjoyed this years coverage very much and the only complaint was that the repeated coverage of qualifing did confuse us a couple of times, after we had been away from the radio during Thursday and Friday. Perhaps the occasional recorded message telling people what they were listening to would help. I do misss some of the old features and adverts but in my opinion this years RLM was essential listening. |
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RLM was as always, a very important part of my enjoyment of the weekend and I agree with many of the positive statements made so far. But I'm going to try and answer this question objectively as I would imagine it will be more helpful to those in a position to influence the output of RLM.
The race coverage is what its all about as far as I'm concerned and in this respect I felt a bit differently about it this year due to the increase in the number of screens the ACO placed around the main spectating areas. In previous years, I have spent the bulk of my time spectating in areas that didn't have a screen and was very dependent on RLM to keep track of things. This year, I watched from exactly the same spots and found that I really didn't 'need' RLM. I found myself taking much less interest in it. Yes, its always good to have some knowledgable people talking about what you are seeing, but the fact is that a knowledgabe spectator coupled with the comprehensive TV coverage can now figure out virtually everything that the RLM commentators can figure out. The only times I felt I really 'needed' some input from RLM was when I wanted something I could 'see' confirmed or I wanted more detailed status information. Namely, the positions of the cars within each class. The TV coverage of the class positions was often in quite small print and quite 'fleeting'. Unfortunately, RLM didn't really come up with the goods in this respect. The basic race position, i.e. who's leading overall, who's second etc. was covered regularly. But the next level of detail i.e. positions of each class 1st to 3rd, distance between each car and relative lap times just wasn't available. If anything, the information from RLM was much less detailed than previous years. The output during the non-race period was generally pretty good. As a commercial enterprise it is inevitable that there will be alot of advertising and this was certainly the case, but on the whole it didn't invade on the real content too badly. Some of the supposed 'real' content was a bit lame though, with some pretty inane questions being put to some very intelligent and interesting people..... I do understand though that many of those interviewed are current (or potential) sponsors for the station, so its unlikely that RLM would want to put them on the spot!... a bit of a conflict of interest here. However, during the race they did push Peugoet pretty hard for some answers regarding their lack of race pace and they did a very good job of putting the spectators perspective to Hugh Chamberlain during the last very long 'team manager requested' safety car period. All in all, as always, I was very glad RLM were there. But I do think they need to realign their output with what's now available to the trackside spectator.... and what's not available! |
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I thought there was very little advertising - only about one minute per hour. Given that most radio stations in the UK run between nine and 12 minutes of adverts per hour, Radio Le Mans was very restrained. |
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This may be a cynical view, but I'm pretty sure that alot of these 'chats' were more about those businesses paying for some airtime than RLM providing 'interesting' insight for the listeners. But, like I said, it has to be funded somehow. |
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I love those guys!!!
![]() Still waiting for the Castrol advert to be replayed from years ago though. One disappointment was that I could hear every word at full volume on my mp3/radio even when the cars went past! [not that the words weren't great - just a dig at the cars being quieter!] |
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It was my first LM but not my first time listening to RLM. I should be used to the style of endurance commentary (a bit like cricket where they can waffle on for a while without really discussing the play at the times not much is happening), but being at the track I demanded a bit more as I was more immersed in the race. I would have liked to hear positions + split times a bit more frequently.
They seemed to have had the extreme knack, which I completely understand is coincidental, of going to an ad break right at a crucial time. A couple of times I noticed a car limping on the tv screens as they go to a break without a mention of it. They also took an ad break right when the final shower came down. I thought that was quite a significant point in the race - maybe they should have delayed the ad and kept commentating. Overall I was very thankful and it enhanced my enjoyment of the race quite a lot! ![]() |
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I doubt that the issue of when to take ad breaks was within the control of the commentators.......
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I didn't catch a huge amount of RLM this year - seem to end up seeing/hearing less and less of the race each year
![]() Do they still go around the campgrounds and report from there/interview the campers in the run up to the race? I used to love that - really helped build the atmosphere! One thing that did bug me a little, especially towards the end of the race, was when they would give the race order out they wouldn't state the number of laps (or seconds!) between the cars... which was frustrating! |
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Radio Le Mans was great this year, especially at the Nurburg! I hardly got to listen RLM because I went home and my Dad wouldn't let me move his computer so I only got to hear about 3 hours maximum. Every second was radio GOLD!
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RLM ..... as usuall ..... teriffic !!!
I seriously might have doubts going to Le Mans if RLM stopped their superb coverage , cuz it would be bloody dificult to find out exactly what is happening . Keep up the show ..... well done those folk . Anyone got the soundtrack frrom 1989 .... the castrol song ..... Baby you make me broom broom , your just my kinda girl ? I love that !!! |
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Love catching up with the race with RLM when SPEED spent time away from the race. Missed having them all night on SPEED, but did mute the tv a few times to turn up the laptop. Def better coverage the speed overall with better backstories as the race developed and slightly better informed.
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It was far better than Speed TV.
One commentators called Chamberlain's Lola a Courage twice. |
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Fantastic, and well presented- the opening 'crew' are just so entertaining, and the Americans (i forget names, sorry :$) were a good blend of comic and informative. And the emails were responded to qucikly, which is nice.
Best feature? Nurburgring 24h, i thought that was even better. |
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Anyone hear the post race show. ****ing brillant, they had people ringing with their best Henri Pescarolo or David Piper accent
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As a marshal spending most of my time out on post near Arnage for the entire week, I find all the information given over the radio to be an excellent source of information. On post, we don't have a TV screen, a wifi point for the laptop or any other means of getting info, so even if some of it comes a bit late, it is at least better than no information at all.
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![]() Anyway. RLM this year, as always, was invaluable and entertaining. I guess that the point of wanting to pose the question is to get feedback, but while the majority (in words) of this post is negative, that is not more overall feeling of RLM. Well done again, and thanks ![]() On a point that was picked up on earlier in this thread. There is clearly time for both run downs, chat and interviews during the 24 hours. You need run down because it allows bearings to be found. Like Bentley03 I also found it annoying when they missed key events. Yes the coverage isn't a perfect record, but when a car doesn't come round or you see a problem on the track it should be covered. General speculation can happen at any point. In test match special they talk about all sorts of things, but not a single ball is missed. Motorsport doesn't require that dedication, but when something on track happens it should become the talking point. If that means interrupting the current thread then so be it. I thought the production this year took a step backwards compared to previous years. Obviously for a live event, and a 24 hour live event especially, it is unrealistic and unnecessary for every jingle and link to work perfectly. However the beginning of the news was missed on numerous occasions and ads and jingles seemed to happen by surprise much of the time. It can be better, because it has been better. Finally, of great disappointment, was the complete lack of coverage that the Legends race got. There were some brilliant cars (and drivers) out there and a good race too. Yet no race commentary. There is a lot of time to fill on Saturday morning, use this. It is an hour where most of the team could have a break. Perhaps get a historic expert in (although I feel some of the team could do it anyway), and tell us about these beautiful Le Mans cars. Even if they were desperate to do the Aston thing at that point, frankly it could have been recorded and delayed a small amount of time. Thanks again ![]() |
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Now, considering the amount of effort needed by the RLM team to organise the broadcast for the event as whole, it is pretty understandable that they will probably have other priorities. However, I totally agree with your comments. Assuming that they didn't have any commercial issues with airing some commentary this year (I don't think the sponsor conflict existed this year), then surely it was just a case of finding a reasonably versed enthusiast to sit, watch and talk about what they were seeing into a microphone. I was in half a mind to phone-in about 10 minutes prior to the race and ask them to pipe me through to attempt a highly amateur version of my own! I suppose though, that they figured that if you're gonna cover it, then do it properly and professionally. Which usually involves some cost. |
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