ACO taking the reins of the JLMC

[brielga]

Seems the current series status became a "rien ne va plus"....

http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...k=view&id=2970

[JAG]

Good to hear, I wonder if they can attract manufactuers without stepping on the toes of Super GT.

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by JAG

Good to hear, I wonder if they can attract manufactuers without stepping on the toes of Super GT.

Might be an excellent alternative for Toyota, Honda, Super Aguri(?) and with Dome, Mazda, and with Aim coming soon it has potential. Maybe the ACO can help the series get a leg up by asking some teams to do a flyaway race in Japan to get some interest generated in ACO legal cars to race in the series.

L.P.

[minimangler]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Might be an excellent alternative for Toyota, Honda, Super Aguri(?) and with Dome, Mazda, and with Aim coming soon it has potential.

Super Aguri are F1 only, and realistically those manufacturers gain more from Super GT.

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Maybe the ACO can help the series get a leg up by asking some teams to do a flyaway race in Japan to get some interest generated in ACO legal cars to race in the series.

Teams are already struggling with the cost of a race in RIO, it'd be HARD to get people to go to Japan. As we are seeing in JLMC, does Japan need western sportscar racing or does western sportscar racing need Japan?

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by minimangler

Super Aguri are F1 only, and realistically those manufacturers gain more from Super GT.

Really I didn't know that. NOT! The premise of the statement was as an alternative!! As to gain; you have seen a market analysis that states this? Where? Got a link?

Teams are already struggling with the cost of a race in RIO, it'd be HARD to get people to go to Japan.

This may be the case, although I have a hard time with that as travel is mostly paid for so it is not that large of a difference than what a race on the Continent would be and would the teams complain as much about that? Also who said that the away race would be at Interlagos next year?

As we are seeing in JLMC, does Japan need western sportscar racing or does western sportscar racing need Japan?

Do you know what the current offering of JLMC is doing to promote ACO style of Sports Car racing? How do you know what is or isn't being done to promote it?
As for the need, It would be a good thing for the Japanese manufacturers to have a series in their own back yard to help build and develop cars to promote their brand in other markets (N.America and Europe) that are larger than their home market!

L.P.

[pederb]

Toyota has been talking about a return to Le Mans, so this might give them a push in the right direction. I think it will be good for Japan and Le Mans.

[brielga]

Originally Posted by minimangler

Teams are already struggling with the cost of a race in RIO

Interlagos is in Sao Paulo....not in Rio.

[The Badger]

Oh goodie ... !!!

[SALEEN S7R]

Toyota back at Le Mans? Sounds great to me.

[JAG]

In the 80's Japanease manufactuers ran big budget Group C sportscar and Group A touring car programs in Japan.

I don't see why the JGTC and JLMC couldn't complement each other, afterall the JGTC is becoming more DTM like by the year rather than a pure sportscar series.

Mazda, Honda, Nissan and Toyota could all have some involvement in ACO prototpye racing in the next 3-4 years, programs not necessarily based in Japan. All these car's could potentially race in the JLMC with home grown teams as in the Group C days.

[duke_toaster]

Japanese Tube Frame Fraud Championship (if they ever set foot in the UK, Trading Standards MUST sieze all the cars as they are not GT cars, they are basically protoypes, same with DTM) has a limited lifetime, I hope JLMC improves in quality - if it supported F1 at one or two races, 3 hours race after the GP it would really boost it.

With Toyota going to LM24 with a hybrid it seems that they may want to run their cars in the JLMC. Shame that there is no rule which mandates that all cars must run in ALMS, LMES, FIA GT or JLMC regularly to get in to LM24.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Japanese Tube Frame Fraud Championship (if they ever set foot in the UK, Trading Standards MUST sieze all the cars as they are not GT cars, they are basically protoypes, same with DTM) has a limited lifetime, I hope JLMC improves in quality - if it supported F1 at one or two races, 3 hours race after the GP it would really boost it.

With Toyota going to LM24 with a hybrid it seems that they may want to run their cars in the JLMC. Shame that there is no rule which mandates that all cars must run in ALMS, LMES, FIA GT or JLMC regularly to get in to LM24.

Doesn't the JLMC and the JPGT series have heavy betting? Semi ( Koff) leagel gambling? And we all know that why "men" are part of the betting processed, sometimes things get "fixed."

[ss_collins]

point of order

Super Aguri are F1 only

Incorrect Super Aguri do Formula Nippon and the IRL too.

Japanese Tube Frame Fraud Championship (if they ever set foot in the UK, Trading Standards MUST sieze all the cars as they are not GT cars, they are basically protoypes, same with DTM) has a limited lifetime

Ummm what??? Super GT is doing very well indeed and gets HUGE crowds - 80,000+ at every race I've heard

[minimangler]

When i said about japan needing western sportscars i meant supergt is the world's strongest gt/spoprtscar series.
the JLMC is a nice aside.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by minimangler

When i said about japan needing western sportscars i meant supergt is the world's strongest gt/spoprtscar series.
the JLMC is a nice aside.

Really??? and I thought after F1 the ALMS had the biggest fan base and the largest World Wide TV exposure / media presents.

According to Motors TV and Greenlight, it is the ALMS that has the largest world wide TV exposure.

[minimangler]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

According to Motors TV and Greenlight, it is the ALMS that has the largest world wide TV exposure.

Ha! But strongest? No way. Super GT is HUGE in Japan, and way bigger than ALMS is in US (relative). Nothing is gonna take SuperGT's crown. And can i just say, the ALMS is a big fat pile of s**t- how on earth has it got no entries?

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by minimangler

Ha! But strongest? No way. Super GT is HUGE in Japan,

and Japan can fit inside my state of North Carolina, so could ( no offence) the UK.

Maybe more on the scale of NASCAR racing, but it is still regional to Japan and Indonesia.

Have a link to their web site?? there might be some spectator info on it.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

and Japan can fit inside my state of North Carolina, so could ( no offence) the UK.

Maybe more on the scale of NASCAR racing, but it is still regional to Japan and Indonesia.

Have a link to their web site?? there might be some spectator info on it.

What is the population of North Carolina? Wikipedia says 8 Million. The population of Japan is 127 Million. Surface clearly isn't everything.

http://www.supergt.net/en/

Ah, and Sepang is in Malaysia, not Indonesia.

[Nick6]

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

and Japan can fit inside my state of North Carolina, so could ( no offence) the UK.

Maybe more on the scale of NASCAR racing, but it is still regional to Japan and Indonesia.

Have a link to their web site?? there might be some spectator info on it.

North Carolina - 139,509 KM sq.
Japan - 377,873 KM sq.
UK - 244,820 KM sq.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_kingdom

[Zurbert82]

Originally Posted by minimangler

And can i just say, the ALMS is a big fat pile of s**t- how on earth has it got no entries?

Don't you mean the JLMC? If not I hope you're being sarcastic because if you're being serious I and many others would be concerned about your logic..

[AU N EGL]

If any one thinks any particular race series does not have enough enteries, OK fine. GO Start your own team and get racing.

[cptkablamo]

I wouldn't mind if the Japanese returned to ACO racing - as long as the ACO don't get in the mode of relying on manufacturers and then when they all leave (lets face it - its cylcical) the series all falls in a heap because there aren't the privateers left there.

And they could run both - Super GT to impress Japan and run a lower budget team in JLOC and then to Le Mans and LMS/ALMS for the Euro/USA markets - it does make some sense...

[minimangler]

hey, sonny, maybe you should lighten up, mr "i drive racecars".

Super GT is the worlds strongest GT series, because it relies on only two classes, has long term manufacturer interest, professionals etc etc.

[HORNDAWG]

Well maybe we should take into account the thoughts of people in and related to the series!

Jiro Kaji Bureau chief, GT Association

The Pokka 1000km is an event which can certainly promote our attitude of “Challenging the World,” and I believe
that it has a great impact in communicating this to other parts of the world.
Another aspect of the Pokka 1000km in terms of globalization is that it has a tradition of expanding its realm to
accept a variety of categories which in turn displays a potential to develop into a collaborative race event between

SUPER GT and the FIA-GT series, as a “double-title race,” by encouraging the participation of FIA-GT cars.

And from your special JLOC chums (read Lambo)

Isao Noritake
Representative
Team JLOC

I believe that endurance races, in a way, are races that allow privateers to be equally competitive. When we were
competing in GT500, it was the Pokka 1000km where we managed to bring back our car in 3rd place, and at this
year’s Le Mans 24 hour race, we were able to do our racing despite the presence of unbeatable works teams. SUPER
GT has turned into what appears to be completely sprint race-based series, but with the Pokka 1000km being
part of the series, I think it will evolve into another form, a series that requires different elements of racing.
Indeed, it would cost teams more money if a 1000-km long race became a part of the series. But it is not like the
cost would increase many times over, and, besides, it will give us more chances as the race distance extends.
I had an opportunity to see the Spa 24 hour-race in the FIA-GT championship two weeks ago, and I think it’s not
an unrealistic idea to invite some of the cars in that championship to participate in the Pokka 1000km. Their cars
in Europe have no chance of beating the SUPER GT cars in a sprint race, but I think they would come for the

Pokka 1000km. It would be an exciting race if we had about 5 FIA-GT cars to compete with.

Quotes from Super GT media room

It would seem that the Factors of Super GT would like to see their cars being able to do some cross series racing and are already taking steps in that direction as well as bringing other GT cars to their series!

So once again we have been treated to several of your petulant xenophobic jingoist posts, as per usual, on the subject!

L.P.

[AU N EGL]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Well maybe we should take into account the thoughts of people in and related to the series!

And from your special JLOC chums (read Lambo)

Quotes from Super GT media room

It would seem that the Factors of Super GT would like to see their cars being able to do some cross series racing and are already taking steps in that direction as well as bringing other GT cars to their series!

So once again we have been treated to several of your petulant xenophobic jingoist posts, as per usual, on the subject!

L.P.

Good to read Horndawg

Being IN the drivers seat ( current or past ) gives ppl different perscitives on the sports they love. Many things are EASY to talk about change but not always easy TOO change.

Renting some go karts for a Saturday to get some drive time helps undstand seat time and racing as well.