'New Manufacturer To V8SC' - Inside Supercar

peckstar · 5 May 2015, 00:55 (Ref:3534162)

I dont know if it is related to this but News Limited journalist James Phelps will feature on the panel for the first time, sharing an exclusive manufacturer announcement

Exclusive news tonight on Inside Supercars

Mixer · 5 May 2015, 07:24 (Ref:3534229)

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Originally Posted by mikuni

If he's pushing more hearsay on Lexus then I'm going to post him a kick in the nuts.

Really are we doing this again after the hype before the Safety Car announcement?

one five five · 5 May 2015, 10:29 (Ref:3534280)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

I dont know if it is related to this but News Limited journalist James Phelps will feature on the panel for the first time, sharing an exclusive manufacturer announcement

Exclusive news tonight on Inside Supercars

After all that the 'Exclusive' was seemingly that the Nissan boss said that they might be open to the idea of running a GTR body in 2017....

Rick Kelly (who you would assume would be more in the know on this topic) quickly dampened it down, saying the Altima was more relevant to racing against Commodore's and Volvo S60's.... what amused me was that they tried to present the story as a 'surprise' to Mr Kelly.... but he said a decision would be a while off

There was little more info on the Ford Dealer Team....so little infact that it makes one wonder if someone was flying a kyte with the whole story.....

glenn_a · 5 May 2015, 11:12 (Ref:3534292)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

I dont know if it is related to this but News Limited journalist James Phelps will feature on the panel for the first time, sharing an exclusive manufacturer announcement

Exclusive news tonight on Inside Supercars

You lost me at James Phelps.

D.R.T. · 5 May 2015, 13:08 (Ref:3534322)

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Originally Posted by glenn_a

You lost me at James Phelps.

That was ugly television.

Is James Phelps meant to be a journalist or is he employed to do PR for V8SC?

david5 · 7 May 2015, 01:52 (Ref:3534993)

Gee those bits of information warranted their own thread.

pug205 · 7 May 2015, 05:10 (Ref:3535022)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Is James Phelps meant to be a journalist or is he employed to do PR for V8SC?

It is a tough call as a journalist is meant to fact check a story and ensure that all details are as correct as possible and use them to form an article free of internal or external influences.

A News Limited journalist will fact check a story and ensure all details are correct as possible and then use them sparely to form an article that follows their companies predetermined agenda and beliefs.

A PR person will say and do anything to attract attention to their employer or client's organisation. Stories can be made out of anything and should be as vague enough to not have to hold up to any scrutiny but generate excitement. Facts are irrelevant and the word exclusive should be used at every opportunity even when no other media organisation is interested in the story anyway.

So yeah it is a bit of a grey area that one.

peckstar · 7 May 2015, 05:29 (Ref:3535026)

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Originally Posted by pug205

It is a tough call as a journalist is meant to fact check a story and ensure that all details are as correct as possible and use them to form an article free of internal or external influences.

A News Limited journalist will fact check a story and ensure all details are correct as possible and then use them sparely to form an article that follows their companies predetermined agenda and beliefs.

A PR person will say and do anything to attract attention to their employer or client's organisation. Stories can be made out of anything and should be as vague enough to not have to hold up to any scrutiny but generate excitement. Facts are irrelevant and the word exclusive should be used at every opportunity even when no other media organisation is interested in the story anyway.

So yeah it is a bit of a grey area that one.

Are you sure you are not confusing News Corp journalists with ABC ones. ABC journalists are the ones to form an article that follows a predetermined agenda and beliefs

one five five · 7 May 2015, 05:40 (Ref:3535029)

You would think that one of the first ports of call on any GTR story might be the Kelly brothers....... I'm not sure how he thought he might ever have 'surprised' Kelly with this news, considering the way the interview that supposedly revealed this revelation occured in the open in the Kelly garage....

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Are you sure you are not confusing News Corp journalists with ABC ones. ABC journalists are the ones to form an article that follows a predetermined agenda and beliefs

You obviously haven't read "The Daily Telegraph" very much....

pug205 · 7 May 2015, 05:46 (Ref:3535031)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Are you sure you are not confusing News Corp journalists with ABC ones. ABC journalists are the ones to form an article that follows a predetermined agenda and beliefs

Nope no confusion, I was talking about News Corp.

porsche91722 · 7 May 2015, 21:46 (Ref:3535274)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Are you sure you are not confusing News Corp journalists with ABC ones. ABC journalists are the ones to form an article that follows a predetermined agenda and beliefs

Well..... I'm glad that you cleared that up for us. We can now read a News Corp rag, believing that all the articles have been compiled by journos free from influence, with no prior agenda or direction from management. Thank you.

D.R.T. · 7 May 2015, 06:26 (Ref:3535043)

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Originally Posted by pug205

It is a tough call as a journalist is meant to fact check a story and ensure that all details are as correct as possible and use them to form an article free of internal or external influences.

A News Limited journalist will fact check a story and ensure all details are correct as possible and then use them sparely to form an article that follows their companies predetermined agenda and beliefs.

A PR person will say and do anything to attract attention to their employer or client's organisation. Stories can be made out of anything and should be as vague enough to not have to hold up to any scrutiny but generate excitement. Facts are irrelevant and the word exclusive should be used at every opportunity even when no other media organisation is interested in the story anyway.

So yeah it is a bit of a grey area that one.

I guess my concern is that journalists shouldn't by nature (or ethics) be partaking in PR.

Clearly Mr Phelps is.

The timing of these "exclusives" almost seems a strategy to try and bury or deflect attention from the shocking ratings & crowds over the weekend.

pug205 · 7 May 2015, 06:47 (Ref:3535050)

I agree they shouldn't be crossing that line. Such a thing is disservice to the journalist, their employer and even the sport they are supporting. If there was an official arrangement between Phelps and V8SC and it is not being declared then that could be a breach of media/journalism codes of practice.

Even with such close ties with the NRL, News Corp will still call the sport out when it does something wrong as well as discuss the issues it is facing. Weird that Phelps does not do such a thing with his V8 coverage.

peckstar · 5 May 2015, 11:12 (Ref:3534293)

Mustang speculation

**GTRMagic** · 5 May 2015, 11:43 (Ref:3534302)

And here goes the silliness of Gen2... throwing away 4 years of technical development on a CotF platform to go to something that has yet to raise its head above the concept stage

bortall · 8 May 2015, 03:13 (Ref:3535365)

Is there really anyone who still reads News Corp papers anyway???

peckstar · 8 May 2015, 03:26 (Ref:3535371)

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Originally Posted by bortall

Is there really anyone who still reads News Corp papers anyway???

your real question is does anyone read the paper anymore, definitely on its way out

News corp is more than papers though

Tourer · 8 May 2015, 05:01 (Ref:3535392)

Good Christ on a stick!

Opened this topic to see what the go is with new manufacturer rumours - my bad.

LOL guys, I think that this thread MAY just have won the gong for the thread that has gone farthest off topic - ever.

For the record, in my personal view there is owner-driven journalistic bias nearly everywhere. The trick is to read or listen to opposite ends of the spectrum so that it kinda balances out.

Other than that, I reckon that any manufacturer considering a jump into the category would probably hold off to see what's happening with Gen 2.

Gaz170 · 8 May 2015, 10:00 (Ref:3535446)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Good Christ on a stick!

Opened this topic to see what the go is with new manufacturer rumours - my bad.

LOL guys, I think that this thread MAY just have won the gong for the thread that has gone farthest off topic - ever.

For the record, in my personal view there is owner-driven journalistic bias nearly everywhere. The trick is to read or listen to opposite ends of the spectrum so that it kinda balances out.

Other than that, I reckon that any manufacturer considering a jump into the category would probably hold off to see what's happening with Gen 2.

What was the original topic again, I've forgotten reading all this media ownership bullshit.

**gomick** · 10 May 2015, 09:53 (Ref:3536055)

So will there be any new manufacturers in 2016?

**GTRMagic** · 10 May 2015, 10:41 (Ref:3536069)

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Originally Posted by gomick

So will there be any new manufacturers in 2016?

Presuming Gen2 is still on track, it is more likely to be 2017 Gomick, as the engine equivalency is probably not going to favour a V8 powerplant...

We would know for sure if some Gen2 regulations were out in the open.. but that's a different challenge

**gomick** · 11 May 2015, 09:00 (Ref:3536386)

Be good if the Mercs can actually be called Mercs instead of Erebus..
A manufacturers championship would be good too with the highest points finish per make only counting with a simple points place breakdown...

Umai Naa · 11 May 2015, 11:05 (Ref:3536410)

All well and good, if Mercedes Benz would actually get on board.

**GTRMagic** · 11 May 2015, 11:21 (Ref:3536415)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

All well and good, if Mercedes Benz would actually get on board.

Just call them Actroses..

**gomick** · 11 May 2015, 23:07 (Ref:3536581)

So this is different to a "non-factory" holden being called a holden?

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