OAK Racing

MulsanneMike · 10 May 2011, 18:09 (Ref:2878292)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRG

Here is somthing I posted on May 1st on another thread

"Sam at Racecar Engineering has this on his site (from lm testday)

CORNER TIMES
The following times are not a complete sample, but were taken at the first right hand sweep of the Porsche Curves.

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/e...al-report-lmp/

The Pescarolo 01 no 15 (oak) is the 2nd quickest overall.
We already know that that car was the quickest petrol vmax.
We also see that Oak says they did many 2 lap stints and were not interested in lap times.
What is this cars potential?"

Mike if you think the car is very trimmed out how do you explain the Pescarolo corner speed?
BRG

Too small of a sample I think. Need to look at the entry to the following curve to get a better idea. But, if the Pesca 01 is carrying substantial downforce it means only one thing; drag will be higher and therefore they are producing even more power than estimated. The Oak car did 326 km/h. That's only 12 km/h slower in a straight line than the 908. I'm pretty confident a competitive .cd (or Cx) for a closed top car is less than .45. So for a open top car, which we know will be generating a higher .cd to produce nearly the same top speed means power. The frontal area advantage for the open top car isn't enough to offset the increased drag.

The Badger · 20 Dec 2011, 09:45 (Ref:3002146)

God , I hope its not baby blue again !!!

Love to see them return to their daydlo pink/green libery .

lms · 21 Dec 2011, 13:57 (Ref:3002699)

unbelievable. looks like another aco failure. they just cant get it right
all that development....

(its something like the reduced rear wings from 2009-. safer, slower, reduced costs... HAH!)

lms · 21 Dec 2011, 15:08 (Ref:3002732)

im not talking about the improved safety, just the "cost-capped" lmp2 formula vs the holes. it seems like oak developed the car and yet they gained no advantage. same as the wings (in 2009): money goes into development to gain back the df they lost with the reduced wing. And despite these they are talking about reducing costs in lmp2

gwyllion · 21 Dec 2011, 15:54 (Ref:3002749)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lms

And despite these they are talking about reducing costs in lmp2

In 2012 rules the cost cap for the complete car went up slightly from 345000 to 355000 euro

gwyllion · 30 Dec 2011, 12:58 (Ref:3005506)

FYI. The brochure of the 2012 Oak-Pescarolo LMP2 includes additional pictures of the computer model and a picture from windtunnel model:
http://www.oak-racing.com/wp-content...tation-Net.pdf

lms · 30 Dec 2011, 13:24 (Ref:3005521)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

FYI. The brochure of the 2012 Oak-Pescarolo LMP2 includes additional pictures of the computer model and a picture from windtunnel model:
http://www.oak-racing.com/wp-content...tation-Net.pdf

FINALLY bigger headlights

the car looks awesome in front view. I hope many teams will use this chassis next year.Oak Racing, HS Technik, Conquest Racing and maybe United autosport and Black Swan as well.

Mal · 30 Dec 2011, 13:28 (Ref:3005523)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lms

im not talking about the improved safety, just the "cost-capped" lmp2 formula vs the holes. it seems like oak developed the car and yet they gained no advantage. same as the wings (in 2009): money goes into development to gain back the df they lost with the reduced wing. And despite these they are talking about reducing costs in lmp2

If Oak want to develop the car and still sell it within the cost capped price range then surely that is their commercial decision?

gwyllion · 21 Dec 2011, 14:12 (Ref:3002707)

I fail to see which failure you are referring to. The goal of the "big honking fin" and now the "big honking holes" is to improve safety (i.e., reduce the chance of car flipping over), not to reduce costs. Judging from the two Audi crashes in Le Mans this year, the fin does as intended.

Fogelhund · 21 Dec 2011, 15:32 (Ref:3002739)

Indeed, rules and rules stability have been an issue with the ACO for a time now. These changes just end up costing money.

The Badger · 30 Dec 2011, 16:24 (Ref:3005576)

Yaknow , OAK havent done a bad job on that fin ..... not a bad lookin car at all . And the holes are fine with me .

The Real DMN · 12 Jan 2012, 19:20 (Ref:3010849)

Mariantic reports that the cars will be branded as Morgans. Says its in the print edition of Autosport.

Great news if they are, so long as their Green

**FIRE** · 12 Jan 2012, 19:32 (Ref:3010855)

Does that mean the tub will be made of oak?

MGDavid · 12 Jan 2012, 23:22 (Ref:3010960)

no but the team is re-naming to Ash Racing

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 08:19 (Ref:3032865)

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsjan12.html has some pictures of the 2012 Oak Morgan LMP2 and some comments on the fender holes.

Tim the Grey · 29 Feb 2012, 15:19 (Ref:3033074)

Point of order, please? Shouldn't this thread now be re-named MORGAN, not OAK???
Personally, I'm very happy that Malvern's finest are back in the spotlight.

gwyllion · 29 Feb 2012, 15:25 (Ref:3033075)

No, the LMP1 car is still Oak Pescarolo and the team is still called Oak Racing.

morningview66 · 4 Mar 2012, 14:50 (Ref:3034978)

So let me get this correct both the OAK LMP1 and LMP2 cars are 'based'? on the Pescarolo 01?

The Morgan deal is just branding, the car will still be the OAK/Pescarolo 01 LMP2?

All Judd powered?

alexkiller8 · 4 Mar 2012, 15:34 (Ref:3034991)

oak pescarolo (lmp1 and lmp2) are 2009 pescarolo 01 evo cars with some aero update (lmp1 version) and hugely bodykit reworked (2011 lmp2 version and new 2012 morgan lmp2) both of them powered by judd engines (3.4 v8 lmp1, judd-hk lmp2).
The morgan lmp2 is just a 2012 spec oak pescarolo lmp2 judd powered with the morgan badge nothing less nothing more (same as lotus/lola situation).
Even if morgan situattion is different, isn't the first time for oak to host a manufacter badge on his car, because in 2009 and 2010 there was a similiar situation; in 2009 they had mazda engines and mazda was their main sponsorship (mazda badge on the nose car, but if i remember well mazda wasn't in the name of the car or the team) but when in 2010 they switched for judd engines the mazda presence on the car livery remained untouched.

isynge · 4 Mar 2012, 18:58 (Ref:3035055)

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Originally Posted by alexkiller8

oak pescarolo (lmp1 and lmp2) are 2009 pescarolo 01 evo cars with some aero update (lmp1 version) and hugely bodykit reworked (2011 lmp2 version and new 2012 morgan lmp2) both of them powered by judd engines (3.4 v8 lmp1, judd-hk lmp2).
The morgan lmp2 is just a 2012 spec oak pescarolo lmp2 judd powered with the morgan badge nothing less nothing more (same as lotus/lola situation).
Even if morgan situattion is different, isn't the first time for oak to host a manufacter badge on his car, because in 2009 and 2010 there was a similiar situation; in 2009 they had mazda engines and mazda was their main sponsorship (mazda badge on the nose car, but if i remember well mazda wasn't in the name of the car or the team) but when in 2010 they switched for judd engines the mazda presence on the car livery remained untouched.

I've a bit more time for the Oak / Morgan thing than some of the other rebadging exercises like the Kodewa Lola / Lotus thing. At least all Oak LMP2s will be Morgans (or so I understand) - which gives it a little more credibility.

Obviously I'd rather see it evolve into something more distinct (insert flippant comments about three wheelers) but I think there's a lot to be drawn from seeing Oak's level of commercial acumen in spotting an opportunity and building on it - like they did with Mazda, and are now doing with Morgan.

gwyllion · 5 Apr 2012, 00:03 (Ref:3053814)

The column of Guillaume Moreau in LMR #73 provides some information about the development that Oak Racing did during the winter. See http://www.vif-argent.fr/lmr73/#/36

Oak worked on the aero to produce less drag without losing downforce.

The new Dunlop tyres are now on par with the Michelins, as they also last four stints.

Oak bought a simulator from Aotech. This allows them to test aero configurations in the simulator and to prepare the initial setup for every track.

According Moreau the Judd V8 is no match for the HPD and Toyota V8, both in terms of performance and reliability.

TF110 · 5 Apr 2012, 05:55 (Ref:3053872)

Seems they have a very capable car (chassis), and would be even better with a more powerful and reliable engine.

The Badger · 6 Apr 2012, 09:05 (Ref:3054391)

Wish Porsche and Ferrari would make engines available to P2 .

Pandamasque · 6 Apr 2012, 15:52 (Ref:3054516)

Are those BMW/Judds and Nissan/Zyteks stressed? If not, selling some GTE Ferrari and Porsche engines to P2 teams seems like a no-brainier...

Victor_RO · 6 Apr 2012, 15:58 (Ref:3054518)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Are those BMW/Judds and Nissan/Zyteks stressed? If not, selling some GTE Ferrari and Porsche engines to P2 teams seems like a no-brainier...

They are stressed members. Only the turbocharged engines are semi-stressed (i.e. MZR-R) or have a cradle which takes up the stress (HPD V6). However... isn't the Ferrari V8 at least semi-stressed in the 458, since the car is mid-engined?

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