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Any word on next years calendar. Will TCR, S5000, TA and TCM still be with Shannon’s or will Shannon’s become little more than proddies and old Porsche’s?
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I hear J Moff wont be back in Trans am.... not 100% onthat
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You'd think with a dearth of large commercial backing and the series needing to stand on it's own two feet, that Shannons provides a lower cost than running on the Supercar card.
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I think with the ownership crossover we are going to see a lot more of Supercar drivers competing in both TCR and GT.That means keeping their calendars separate.
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Wouldn't you love to see peckstar vrs 2 litre Touring Car Star in UFC???
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Hmmm - pecky disappears from the forum, not heard from again - short time later 2ltcs appears, backs a different horse but takes a similar approach to other posters as pecky - spooky huh? Maybe pecky got hit by lightning or something and came back under a different guise. Or maybe not.
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TCR Corolla has broken cover in Argentina.
Surely ARG needs to do all it can to get one here? |
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This forum is just a means to get off on arguing with people, and hopefully being right.
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As an outright designated top tier class, that time will come. I wouldn't declare it as 2-litre cars are the end of ICE engines and have a long use-by date. It might be if the atcc class goes from 5 litre to electric. But if that transition ever occurs, domestic motorsport here would be driven into the ground so deep that the cries won't have an impact. Quote:
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Not in Europe, their life span is very limited and we drive what others make so not here either. Toyota have in recent days declared the ICE engine dead.
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You are forecasting that, and you have done a lot.
The hybrid/electric revolution is still some time away. A series doesn't have to be on the money to the year as far as what cars manufacturers are selling (Because that's still ahead of time) and what consumers are buying, but lag that's within a range. 2 litre cars could still be designated as a top tier touring car class, even in Europe when supposedly hybrid and/or electric cars become the norm or be included in a multi car class. This is not the case with 5litre V8s, which exists nowadays primarily because of vested interests, it's a known quantity, and domestic motor racing down here is a smaller culture. They are otherwise out of place. |
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For memory, when I watched American Beauty, wasn't the guy who was most anti-gay actually the elephant in the closet? Funny that.....
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A series that was a reflection of what was happening on Australian roads swapped out the turbo-diesels for V8's......
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If you want manufacturers officially involved the engine is important.
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If Mazda were so keen on TCR, they'd have come up with their own solution for their engine, or lack thereof, dilemma.
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However, it is made very clear to Mazda by the European Union that they are not particularly welcome to sell Japanese-made cars in Europe thanks to that 9.8% import tariff. For better or worse, TCR is a primarily European racing category, and full importers like Mazda or Subaru are heavily disadvantaged by tariffs. |
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