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Old 17 Jan 2022, 16:06 (Ref:4094149)   #11
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I mentioned 2002, and you want to cherry-pick 2008?

However good it seems to you, it's still distinctly inferior to champcar up to 2002.

I'm talking about a series that is almost as big a deal as F1, of which champcar was getting there, but imo, probably another decade away from.


How's that any different to the last 40 years?


Except a lack of consciousness to give it consideration. The balance is way more F1-centric these days.

Then there's the structure the FIA has put in place to get into F1 (As Greem has pointed out), and his manager (As big a F1 snob there is in motor racing).

I didn't cherry pick 2008 at all. You seem to be quite unaware that 2008 was pivotal, in than both the IRL and ChampCar series merged; reunification as it is called. I mentioned 2008 in response to your comment that IndyCar had regressed because in 2008, despite reunification, the now merged IndyCar series was in a dreadful state. In your post #2317, you don't actually mention 2002.

I agree CART had the potential to challenge F1 but by 2002 it had shot its bolt and was on a steady decline and by the time CART became ChampCar in 2003, most of the major teams and sponsors had gone.

How's that any different to the last 40 years? 40 years ago IndyCar wasn't in the dreadful state it was in, in 2008. The other big difference is seat availability. In 1982 F1 wasn't limited to just 10 F1 teams, there were many more teams. 40 years on, that is clearly not the case, so the alternative, if F1 drivers want to race in a top open wheel series and can't get a seat in F1, is to race in IndyCar, which is what is happening.


As it is, this is completely off topic so I am leaving it here.
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