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Won't this vector steering make it handle like a tool cart, floor jack, or fork lift? None of those handle real well. They do have an excellent turning radius however.
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First car to go over the Dunlop bridge instead of under it. The landing will be a little hard though. If it ain't an Audi A.M. look out.
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Daftest thing since the Reliant Robin. I'm sure it could really fast in a straight line, but when it falls over in a corner, what's the point?
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I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, those guys are no fools.
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I don't think Ben Bowlby would have wasted his time and effort on the D-Wing project, for it to fall over while cornering.
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I hate the whole idea about this car racing at Le Mans. The ACO has rightly promoted new technologies which could be transferred to road cars. This wing car concept can't be transferred to road cars - so where is the relevance in introducing this project? |
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Well the gas Turbine Rover was never a viable road car option either and I fail to see why it shouldnt have an enthuisasts following is something similar was produced for the road, look at that silly open frame Atom thing, I see no sense in that either as a road car but someone obviously does.
Another thing everyone is banging on about the cornering, how many pictures have you seen of cars lifting a wheel during hard cornering effectively becoming three wheelers! |
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Le Mans is the perfect platform for new and innovative machines. It's IndyCar's loss, the are a dying series and this car could have actually generated some interest.
I'll bet Colin Chapman got some flack over introducing a rear engined car. Everyone hated the Brabham Fan Car, and I'll bet the Tyrrell P34 got some funny looks as well. No one had the internet to moan about them back then though. At least the ACO isn't going down the F1 route of stifling anything new. |
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I can see why the purists don't want the D-Wing at Le Mans but I like the fact the ACO is open minded enough to give it a go.
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Rover built several gas turbine cars apart from the BRM Le Mans car- and these were either based on Rover production chassis, or were very much 'road car' in concept. IIRC, the last, 'T4' was basically one of the prototypes for the P6 Rover 2000/3500 http://gallery.brit-cars.com/data//6..._0703_1139.jpg I'm fairly open-minded on this so far- I can't help finding the whole concept faintly barking, but as DownF0rce said, it's not the first time someone's pitched up at Le Mans race with something totally out of left-field... http://www.enciclopediadellautomobil...siluro-640.JPG Last edited by KA; 14 Jun 2011 at 12:44. |
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I forget where I read it, so if you don't believe me, fine, I don't care, but I remember hearing it was a 3-wheeler originally. They only changed to 4 wheels when the FIA told them for it to run in a series under FIA sanction (which Indycar is under ACCUS), a car had to by definition have 4 wheels.
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I didn't say I agreed with it. I just said if they cared about having lightweight technology, remove the weight limits of the classes. Otherwise if that's their stated aim they're being hypocritical.
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The point is that they want diversity of competition and they want speed, and safety I'd imagine would be quite high on their list. If they removed the weight limits, then the teams would go to ridiculous and dangerous lengths to find speed that would have little to do with road cars.
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I have a much larger issue with the DeltaWing not on its design but for the driving experience. It amazes me this car was designed to take part on street courses where the corner has a concrete wall right inside. The driver has no frontal reference point for the width of his rear wheelbase, and we see drivers getting tapped in the rear by moving over or not realizing a driver is there all the time, and it's going to be worse here (especially with Le Mans where there's no spotters). Last edited by Flyin Ryan; 14 Jun 2011 at 14:54. |
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