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^^ Was that Ferrari limited as well.
In 04 Stoddart qualified with a 22.7 at Adelaide in a Lamborghini Diablo G... and Simonsen did a 1:23.4713 in a Ferrari 550 GT in qualifying. Simonsen did a 23.2248 in Race 1, and a 23.1533 in Race 3 in a car that if i recall correctly was restricted a reasonable amount. The fastest race lap for the V8's was a 1:23.3754 for Ambrose in Race 2, so they weren't the fastest touring cars at Adelaide that weekend. |
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Its not just the V8 Supercars that have done that though. What about the rotary being banned from categories the world over? As a fan of rotaries thats very frustrating (a clearly superior technology being banned because thats easier than raising the bar to compete with them). |
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Clearly superior technology c'mon we know you like them but just like everything else they have their advantages & disadvantages otherwise every car would have them & even Mazda only bung them in one model.
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Ultimately the decision to make the ATCC Ford and Holden seems to have had nothing to do with actual motorsport, and everything to do with politics...AFAIK Ford and Holden merely wanted bragging rights about beating the other manufacturer - they didn't want to admit defeat to a third one...
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ah the sound of a dripping tap, how monotoneous, you really should come up with something new and factual. No pit stops at GP and we saw passing including for the lead. Pit stops at clipsal and we still saw passing including for the lead. It time for you to fix the broken record |
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Racers point is a valid one, pit stops and reverse grid concept is an indication that the organisers TEGA/ Avesco dont think the racing is up to standard (whose ever standards those are) They are not the only category to do this, but I do have to giggle when people make statements to the effect that V8's have the best racing the world. |
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One pass for the (actual) lead at the Clipsal in 500 kilometres of racing, Woohoo!!! Or are you also including Todd Kelly taking the lead in race 2 because Lowndes and McConville were having an accident? The point that should be made is that Jamie Whincup didn't pass for the lead on track, he got passed in the pits. Is this right? I can stomach it in the enduro's, but in a sprit race come on...... |
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Actually - if you go and check the lap charts you will find that nearly 90% of place changes took palce because a car pitted and others made up positions that way
Race 1 http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...006.ADEL.R13.L Race 2 http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/re...006.ADEL.R23.L |
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Storyline, this was in the actual race, not after a pitstop.
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Like I said - look at the lap charts - there may appear to have been plenty of positional changes taking place, but the lap charts tell you a completely different story.
How many, for instance, of that 'passing left right and centre' you saw was merely the leading cars passing lapped cars? Maybe you have a different idea of racing to me, but that doesn't count as 'passing' - it counts as lapping, not fighting for position. |
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Simple - a good management company (no one is denying that) and the lack of any other suitable category with decent management.
Just because something is popular does not mean it is 'good' |
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Good management doesnt get record crowds through the gate.
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Good management knows how to market the product - what they cannot continue to do, however, is maintain those numbers when the product doesn't live up to its hype or starts to produce something that looks, on the outside, like the product they wat but when the shine starts to disappear the underlying substance is found to be wanting or sub-standard.
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I think the undeniable consensus here is that V8's have probelms and they need to be sorted, the show is slipping and it needs somethign major to spice it up. And we all know that involves allowing other brands of cars to enter, and not some other rubbish (Much better word) regualtion. Somethign sensible and constructive
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