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1937 London Grand Prix
I recently bought a copy of SS_Collins's book "Motor racing at Crystal Palace" (Which is rather good). On page 28 there is a picture of this race, depicting an ERA in front of another car- No. 8. Can anyone tell me what this car might be (from programmes, or maybe looking at it if you have the book)?
Ideally I'd like to get some more pictures so that I can base my '35 Riley special bodywork on it. Thanks. Paul |
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Pleased you like it - Richard Paige (RAP) is the man with the answer his big book of Crystal Palace results covers this race so it should be pretty easy to find out the car type then some googling will sort it. Amazingly enough I don't have a copy of the book to hand so I can't tell you!
Since the publication of the book some more unpublished pictures have come to light so depending on sales there may be a revised edition. By the way does anyone know where the winners trophy is from this race - theres a picture of Bira with it did he keep it? |
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Thanks for that. Do you have a copy of Paige's book? I've just had a look online and there is nothing on Bromley library and googling bears no fruit.
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We don't have Richard's book I'm afraid but I do have the programme next door but is in a box somewhere - Richard (RAP on here) also posts so sure he will be along shortly with the answer to your query!
If not will dig out the programme, have some old personal photographs from that race as well (Great Great Grandad commentated on it) but not sure if that particular car features. |
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Number 8 was Jack Bartlett's Alta.
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Fantastic! Thanks!
If anyone can give clues as to where I might find pictures of this, I'd be very keen to hear them ![]() Cheers |
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Have you tried ss_collins' book? Not sure if will be in there, haven't looked.
I only have about ten of the personal photographs on the computer, and afraid #8 at CP isn't on there from 1937. I would look through the albums, but unfortunately they're in Washington. The photos I can look at here of CP in 37 are only a close up of the opening etc, not all the actual cars. |
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It was ss-collins's book where I first saw the car!
A friend of mine racers his pre-war Alta, so I've just emailed him in case he knows any more. |
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Is it just the #8 car you're looking for then or the event in general?
Sorry did realise it was were you first saw the car but not sure what you're looking for now... |
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It's just car #8 that interests me at the mo.
Some pictures of the rear end would be very useful so that my chum might recreate it with his wheeling machine (if I like it)!!! |
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I can confirm #8 is Bartlett Alta chassis 57S. 6th in Heat. Non finisher in the final. Although I have three photos of this race in my book "A Record of Motor Racing at Crystal Palace" (thanks for the mention Sam - available from Formula One Register - enquiries@formulaoneregister.com), non show the Alta. The book does however give FULL details (entry/grid/results/lap chart) of this and every other race at Crystal Palace
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Thanks! Knowing the chassis number is also useful. I'm still waiting to hear back from my friend with the IFS Alta to see what he's found out about Bartletts car.
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I am no expert on Altas but 57S is what is usually called an "offset" single seater. Bartlett had it 37/38 then I think it went to Lord Avebury. If so it ran in the Crystal Palace Cup 13 Aug 38 (retired) and the Imperial Trophy 8 Oct 38 (Heat 8th, dnq Final). Apparently the car is now in Canada and has been "over the pond" for many years, perhaps since pre-WW2.
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