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Old 9 Jul 2008, 15:14 (Ref:2248031)   #1
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Gold Coast Indy - 2009

In one of his columns on www.speedtv.com Robin Miller (US open-wheel journalist) makes this comment about the status of Surfers Paradise in 2009

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Speaking of Surfers Paradise, it looks like the exhibition race down under will come off as scheduled in October but still no definite date for 2009. The IRL has offered early in the season or a couple weeks earlier than the current date in October so it can package Aussie with Japan and make one trip.
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So what affect might this have/be having on the makeup of next years V8Supercar calendar??
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 20:11 (Ref:2248205)   #2
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In one of his columns on www.speedtv.com Robin Miller (US open-wheel journalist) makes this comment about the status of Surfers Paradise in 2009



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So what affect might this have/be having on the makeup of next years V8Supercar calendar??
Well, there's another race two weeks before Surfers Paradise...
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 22:17 (Ref:2248285)   #3
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And an F1GP in australia early in the IRL season........
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 22:24 (Ref:2248291)   #4
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Very much doubt that the event will go back to it's original March date.

They have point from the financial side of things to have back to back fly away rounds, but I think they'll find it hard to move the race and not have some of the other sports in the country object.
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 22:47 (Ref:2248310)   #5
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What makes you think the IRL cares about the other sports in Australia?
If people here don't want to play, they won't come. Simple.

the Indy race and Gp backed to backed many years ago in March...
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Old 9 Jul 2008, 23:20 (Ref:2248324)   #6
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Plus don't forget that the WRC Rally Australia is scheduled for September 09 at the Sunshine Coast too...move Japan I say
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Old 10 Jul 2008, 00:52 (Ref:2248341)   #7
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What makes you think the IRL cares about the other sports in Australia?
If people here don't want to play, they won't come. Simple.
There is not that much sponsorship money available, so I would surprised if there is a 1 2009 race if 2008 is going to be a "Exhibition" and not inked in like the previous CCWS races.
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Old 10 Jul 2008, 06:58 (Ref:2248425)   #8
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they will get SFA people out there if it's the same weekend as Bathurst, there is no contest there. aslong as it its later not earlier everything should be fine. the V8's will cope fine holding the event by themselves if they don't come here in 09. it might be wise for them not to come considering it's an exhibition and October seems tobe a heavy schedule of motorsport in 09.
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they will get SFA people out there if it's the same weekend as Bathurst, there is no contest there. aslong as it its later not earlier everything should be fine. the V8's will cope fine holding the event by themselves if they don't come here in 09. it might be wise for them not to come considering it's an exhibition and October seems tobe a heavy schedule of motorsport in 09.
Tony George has in the past opined that he is no fan of OS races. Forcing a move to the Bathurst weekend could be a good way to get out of the contract. The fact that this years race won't count for points shows just how important it is for IRL.
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Old 11 Jul 2008, 11:05 (Ref:2249103)   #10
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Tony George has in the past opined that he is no fan of OS races. Forcing a move to the Bathurst weekend could be a good way to get out of the contract. The fact that this years race won't count for points shows just how important it is for IRL.
And as long as the Qld Govt keep paying the bills, Cocko & his cronies will keep going back, and they will be loving the fact that they will be top billing in their home town.......

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Old 11 Jul 2008, 23:48 (Ref:2249490)   #11
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Two things here:

Earlier season date won't happen because of the Cyclone Season - some of the early races (think the 3rd and 4th from memory) got caught up in this and caused havoc - the 3rd was at the tail end of the cyclone and, although a dry race, the lead up and practice were absolute nightmares - the 4th (again from memory) was literally a flood..

As for a clash with Bathurst - does anyone seriously belileve that just because Bathurst is on there would be no one at Surfers? Two completely different events and two completely different locations to draw spectators from. If Bathurst were, as suggested, able to draw all of the Surfers crowd away from SP, the crowd at Bathurst would be 3 times what they get.

The world doesn't revolve around a V8 race.
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Old 12 Jul 2008, 05:42 (Ref:2249548)   #12
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Tony George has in the past opined that he is no fan of OS races. Forcing a move to the Bathurst weekend could be a good way to get out of the contract. The fact that this years race won't count for points shows just how important it is for IRL.
To be fair, as much as I hate to be considering it is the irl, before the champcar sellout a contract had already been signed between Chicago and the irl that Chicago would have the season ending race and possible championship decider. Then the Surfers race fell into the irls lap. Chicago refused to change the contract therefore the current situation.
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I love how a whole conversation has spurred from something that was never said... GC and Indycar have a multi year contract, the calendar for next year should be out in the next few weeks and I am sure that Japan, Australian and Indycar are working together to get something that works...
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I love how a whole conversation has spurred from something that was never said... GC and Indycar have a multi year contract, the calendar for next year should be out in the next few weeks and I am sure that Japan, Australian and Indycar are working together to get something that works...
I agree, i was more interested in what VESA's views may be of the whole thing considering they're calendar (i'm assuming they don't have much say while the IRL is involved)
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Has everyone forgotten that Indy Cars & V8's share equal billing ?

Any change mooted by Tony George would need the Black Wiggle's organisation to agree, especially a clash with Bathurst....

Or will the organisers simply jettison the V8's in the faint hope that worlds second or third best, (read second rate) open wheel series can stand alone on the Gold coast ?

Something it couldn't do, just a few short years ago.....
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It's been said before - the GOld COast sees international exposure more important than local exposure/ratings etc - if they have to decide between V8's or moving the date to suit overseas TV coverage - no guessing which they will choose - and the V8's will just have to cry/threaten/***** about it again.
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I only been to 1 gold coast indy and that was 05,the weather was great,having it in april or early march be not be a good idea,i remember watching the closing stages of the early yaers and mario andretti win the thing and it was getting dark when he crossed the line to win it.I think i rather be hot and sunburnt then be wet and cold.
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Well this is not good news http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/...top-story.html Lets hope it all gets worked out. Maybe we need them more then they need us?
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It makes you wonder if the Indy Racing League are holding off due to the economic climate. ie. increased travel cost through higher oil prices and softening USD.

or are the QLD Government prepared to subsidize the IRL circus?
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It makes you wonder if the Indy Racing League are holding off due to the economic climate. ie. increased travel cost through higher oil prices and softening USD.

or are the QLD Government prepared to subsidize the IRL circus?
The irl can't complain as all their travel and accommodation is paid for.
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