[Team] The return of Cosworth

[veeten]

and look who may be the team responsible...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74391

[Daniel Pinnegar]

I'm really looking forward to USF1 joining F1 now.

I hope hey are something like Super Aguri by being a close-nit team that outperform the factory teams.

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Daniel Pinnegar

I hope hey are something like Super Aguri by being a close-nit team that outperform the factory teams.

Or maybe they'll be like BAR.

Best of luck though to the USGPUSAAA1XYZF1 Team.

[fredd1]

Think you mean nit as in knit.
Presently there're enough nit teams in F1.

[Bononi]

Originally Posted by veeten

and look who may be the team responsible...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74391

Surprise !!!!

[luke]

Cosworth back in F1....where it should be.

[JeremySmith]

Brilliant...The name Cosworth should be right there..

[Burnsie]

It will be good to see Cosworth back in F1, but I can't help but feel that this USF1 crowd aren't fully aware of how tough and unforgiving this sport can be. As Marbot says, we might end up with another BAR-type scenario. Talking the talk is the easy part...

But yes, definitely good to hear the Cosworth rumours.

[JeremySmith]

It does seem to be looking through rose tinted glasses from the USF1 point of view..We could all be very surprised at the same time?

[Pro Racer]

kinda fits USF1/Cosworth.

[VIVA GT]

Great news (with rose tinted spectacles on).
But (spectacles off), although Cosworth is an iconic name in the history of motorsport we must be aware that the company now bears very little resemblance to the Coswoth company that we all remember from their heyday.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Great news (with rose tinted spectacles on).
But (spectacles off), although Cosworth is an iconic name in the history of motorsport we must be aware that the company now bears very little resemblance to the Cosworth company that we all remember from their heyday.

Had I got here sooner, I would have made that point.

And aren't the management of this new team ex members of other teams? If so I suggest they will be fully aware of the piranha club.

[veeten]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

And aren't the management of this new team ex members of other teams? If so I suggest they will be fully aware of the piranha club.

Yes. If one checks the bio's of both gentlemen whom are the chief principals of this new team, then they will know that these aren't exactly 'johnny-come-latelys' to the sport... unlike those that have over the last couple of decades.
It's the reason that I have a little more trust in their ability to run a team over a longer stretch of time.

[Yannick]

Cosworth have won the FIA / Max official spec-engine deal. So Maybe Team US GPE won't be the only ones using it. That can only be a good thing for engine development.

[Bononi]

Yeah, F1 will be a spec-engine series.

[duke_toaster]

I don't think there is much chance of a spec engine in the sense of the entire grid using it, however Max wants the option for teams to use a cheap Cosworth unit. I don't forsee his totally spec engine scheme working.

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by Bononi

Yeah, F1 will be a spec-engine series.

Well, semi spec engine really, for teams on a tight budget. If done correctly, I think it can be a really good thing. Allow flexibility for big teams, and still give small teams a chance for glory. It could of course also crash and burn horribly if not properly managed. But lets see what happens

[Born Racer]

I reckon an engine supplier that will provide for anyone would be a good situation if more teams are allowed. It'd be a bit like the 90s when anyone who started up seemed to be able to get hold of a Ford. I'd hate to see a spec-engine though, because I don't think F1 should be a spec series (with the exception of tyres because they were becoming too critical a performance differential at the height of the Michelin/Bridgestone battle).

[duke_toaster]

I have to agree with that Born Racer. Engine suppliers should be required to supply engines for a certain price per engine to a certain number of teams like the old rules for tyres.

No engine may be used in the championship unless the company supplying engines accepts and adheres to the following conditions

Four or less suppliers : each engine supplier must be prepared to equip up to 40% of the entered teams at €N per engine.
Five or more suppliers : each engine supplier must be prepared to equip up to 30% of the entered teams at €N per engine

Maybe use those ideas at lower levels of motor racing for chassis and engines, that way costs will be kept in check.

[Born Racer]

I don't think F1 should be a spec series (with the exception of tyres because they were becoming too critical a performance differential at the height of the Michelin/Bridgestone battle).

This point is assisted by the fact that I find engine development and competition interesting, but just never found the same with tyre development. Perhaps it helps that engine developments are easier for me to grasp and engage with, whereas tyre developments are invisible and not something I find so instinctively satisfying to follow.

[duke_toaster]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

This point is assisted by the fact that I find engine development and competition interesting, but just never found the same with tyre development. Perhaps it helps that engine developments are easier for me to grasp and engage with, whereas tyre developments are invisible and not something I find so instinctively satisfying to follow.

Also tyre developments are not so important as the cost/benefit ration goes, as they are not so road relevant. It's difficult to determine tyre performance in numbers like it is for engines. One pet idea of mine for engines is to limit the power produced to a fixed amount and provide more freedom regarding how it is generated, using pump fuel and a system of somehow incentivising fuel economy, be it a test mid-season or otherwise.

[Racer 35]

So, let's see.
Cosworth engines, slicks, no refuelling, small budgets, more cars, more teams, more overtaking.
Have I been through a time warp, and ended up in the mid 70s?