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Dunno if this has been mentioned, but Montezemolo is starting the Le Mans 24 Hours, and Deminocali is also going to be there. Is this Ferrari looking into other possibilites?
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I heard about Deminocali at Le Mans but I didn't know about another manufacturer entering the IRC, though there has been talk of another engine manufacturer in the IRC. I take it you did mean another and not anothing manufacturer; it does sound rather good?
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There is a very interesting article Dieter Rencken on Autosport.com: http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2162
(subscription only) According to Rencken all the manufacturers need do is buy A1GP and get a ready made infastructure and some decent tracks (and before anyone says it, they would NOT be using A1GP cars ) |
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But, if they do withdraw from F1, I can't see them not being involved in motorsport - and, really, the only other option they would have would be Le Mans. Unless and engine supply in IndyCar? |
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I reckon you are right about Le Mans as it would mean they could also compete in ALMS and they need that North American market. Though I quite like the rallying idea. Paris to Dakkar with Kimi behind the wheel, left foot breaking; those Finns have a great rallying heritage. Heiki could join him as he seems all washed up with McLaren.
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A Toyota/Ferrari hook up?
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No, I think you've miss interpreted it. Basically, both are looking into LMP racing. Ferrari already have a sportscar project and with Nissan now involved in sportscars, Toyota have an interest.
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I did, thanks. You know what get's me about the whole F1 budget business is that for the 2009 season the car had to have a new rear wing, a new front wing and a new engine. That in itself must cost loads and these changes were at the behest of the FIA and now they want to impose a budget cap after they have called for these changes; they should have left the cars as they were and if was a matter of reducing speed, fit the cars wit a rev limiter.
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I agree it is a mess and Ecclestone and Mosely, particularly Ecclestone with his cosntant tinkering is largely to blame. F1 should look at what's happened with the IRL, bad TV coverage low spectator attendance because Tony George wanted to cut costs and wanted more control but it is lack lustre; some great drivers and tracks but nothing innovative, just Dallaras. However NASCAR, which is just ovals is doing great. They have some innovation in that they've got a mix of manufacturers that the average Joe can relate to as he either owns a Chevy, a Ford or a Dodge, even a Toyota.
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With NASCAR though, it is easier - its just one country, their target market is the average Joe. Formula One was at its best when it knew what it was aimed at - the middle class, western/central European. However, now its gunning from everywhere from Communist China to Islamic Abhou Dhabi - its not sure of its identity. It needs to sort it out, and quickly. |
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There is a point to them because: A) You are able to see which of the drivers there are the most talented and it proves that the top Nacsar drivers are capable of turning right. Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart both have an all-oval background yet have doen very well on the road courses. B) Because stock cars are so poorly designed for road courses they are very entertaining to watch. The way the whole field fans out on a restart at the Glen.... |
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You mean left turning, hence Crapwaggons but yes that makes sense. Never been a big NASCAR fan but slowly getting into it, thanks for the low down.
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I get what your saying and meanwhile ,post recession, Tony George will either have killed of the IRL in 2013 and reinvented C.A.R.T., with Ferrari as a constructor and engine supplier. You never know? Lol.
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Actually,they do,but just like everything else in F1 (except for the cars) they want it to happen very slowly.
What they don't want is a two-tier Formula,because that would mean that some teams wouldn't know what to do with all that spare cash that they don't have. |
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I know I'll get shot at for suggesting this, but wouldn't it be great for F1 to merge with the IRL? So then the WC would includ the Indy 500 again! And there could be another US GP at the Glen etc. |
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Well excellent, I am delighted that Ferrari, Red Bull, Toyota, and quite possibly BMW are telling the FIA to sod right off with their stupid budget cap..
McLaren of course will stay out of this one at the moment for obvious reasons.. By the way Mr Mosley and friends, could we please get rid of this stupid push to pass complete waste of money nonsense, after all we would like to save money, dont you know... |
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IMHO a World Championship won without the presence of Ferrari in the field would be a hollow one. I was a follower of the team pre TGF era & still have a soft spot for them. But they are a very large chunk of the mystic of F1.
Ask a non motorsport person to name an F1 team, who do they say. |
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Brilliant. What about chassis? Re-animating Adrian Reynard?
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