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4 Oct 2010, 22:11 (Ref:2769470) | #151 | ||
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After it's all said and done I don't know any hard up circuit owners !!!!!
The Almeria race circuit near me is used most of the time for testing and track days all the year round and probably makes more money than if it had race meetings. Spain is dotted with tracks that most people don't know exist and all make a living. However apart from the newer "named" circuits the amenities and safety are non existent ! |
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I deliberatly kept away from track hire cost - because if you go down that route, there won't be ANY club racing - track days make more money. The idea of letting the hirer keep the gate money is a good one - and odd that this isn't already the case (usually when you hire a location, you take any profits from the hire - e.g. village halls!). It doesn't need many people to turn up to get a fair chunk of cash - a few grand at least - which would do well to offset entry fees. I do assume however, that the circuit hire fees cover all their costs and some profit, rather than them relying on unreliable gate receipts. |
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11 Oct 2010, 09:55 (Ref:2773014) | #153 | ||
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Some areas of cost-cutting for entry fees/improvements I can think of:
Track-time is divvied up at £x per minute of race time (based on all the costs of circuit hire, insurance etc) and each race has to cover that cost. So, if there's 30 of you in the race, entry fee will be a LOT less than for 4 of you Sorts out low number grids - they'll be much keener to merge with other races Green flag lap at two minutes of track time = COST Allow cars who have been pulled from gravel traps to re-join races (but to be excluded from the results) |
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11 Oct 2010, 15:19 (Ref:2773178) | #154 | |||
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I have read this thread with interest and and there some points very well made however, like many I was intrigued by the posts made by THE STAPE, and I suspect, like many, wanted to take this further !
But I find he does not accept PM's, no email address is given & despite his so called desperate attempts to involve a club level team in his venture provides no means for anyone to get in touch, could the STAPE be the STIGS alter ego as he has only posted 3 times since joining the forum in 2008 , a fact I see others have checked on ! Reveal yourself Mr Entrepreneur and let Club Level Race Teams help reach your goal. Quote:
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14 Oct 2010, 12:21 (Ref:2774833) | #155 | ||
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Google throws up this: http://www.myspace.com/thestape - not sure that - apart from being "a great success" - and being self-employed, much else fits the likely profile of a sponsor.....but could be
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23 Oct 2010, 07:56 (Ref:2778767) | #156 | ||
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How about an organiser tries to concentrate on one type of car per race meeting - ie single seaters / sports racers / saloons - to give more options for amalgamating grids. Getting full grids for every race has to be the best chance for reducing costs (though I agree every cost should be analysed). How often have we heard that a low grid race has to be run because there was no possibility of amalgamation.
Has anyone been to a rallycross meeting? I don't think they send round a course car between each race there. Any time that can be saved between races, giving the possibility of adding another race has to be a good thing. Promotion should be a joint venture between organising club and circuit (and I'm sure it is in higher profile club meetings - eg Oulton Gold Cup) as the circuit has the local contacts, but the club has the best knowledge of the meeting contents, and therefore the gate income should be shared. |
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