LM24 Future Le Mans entries... - Page 8

Pilgrimage · 2 Jul 2011, 09:33 (Ref:2913829)

I did put a thread up yesterday with a link to Porsche in LMP1 in 2014 but it appears to have been taken down (?).

Victor_RO · 2 Jul 2011, 09:40 (Ref:2913832)

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Originally Posted by Pilgrimage

I did put a thread up yesterday with a link to Porsche in LMP1 in 2014 but it appears to have been taken down (?).

There's already a thread about it in the main section discussing it, and it's already 10 pages long.

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129049

Pilgrimage · 2 Jul 2011, 15:15 (Ref:2913939)

Indeed but not everyone checks that thread... and its LM specific...

Gingers4Justice · 2 Jul 2011, 15:29 (Ref:2913946)

There's a very, very impressive list of manfacturer flirtations at the minute, perhaps we could grade them...

Grade 1 LM Manufacturers - gauranteed long-term entries and/or current factory team
Peugeot
Audi
Porsche
Corvette
Ferrari factory backing in the GTE class
Spyker
Aston Martin

Grade 2 - recent activity strongly hints at a factory effort and/or a presence this season
Mazda
Toyota
Honda
Nissan
Chrysler

Grade 3 - immediate future in severe doubt and/or strenuous link with LM
Hyundai
BMW
Jaguar
Panoz
Tata

Grade 4 - wild speculation and silly dreams
Ferrari LMP1
Ford
Renault

That's an organised speculation table. I'd expect one manufactuer to fall from Grade 1 before long but for a couple more to move up now Porsche's joined the party.

MitchZ06 · 4 Jul 2011, 08:05 (Ref:2917757)

You forgot McLaren

Pilgrim1975 · 10 Oct 2011, 12:30 (Ref:2968657)

Porsche confirm a full works team effort for Le Mans in 2014;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhOsDzSJ0bk

wolfhound · 14 Oct 2011, 17:35 (Ref:2971238)

I see Toyota have confirmed they will enter Le Mans next year with a petrol hybrid but will it be good enough long term? Witness their struggles in F1.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95341

Simmi · 14 Oct 2011, 18:41 (Ref:2971264)

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

I see Toyota have confirmed they will enter Le Mans next year with a petrol hybrid but will it be good enough long term? Witness their struggles in F1.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95341

They were pretty damn good at sportscars before they moved to F1. And they were winning in the WRC. They have unfinished business at Le Mans.

The Badger · 15 Oct 2011, 09:09 (Ref:2971474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

There's a very, very impressive list of manfacturer flirtations at the minute, perhaps we could grade them...

Grade 4 - wild speculation and silly dreams
Ferrari LMP1

That's an organised speculation table. I'd expect one manufactuer to fall from Grade 1 before long but for a couple more to move up now Porsche's joined the party.

I wouldnt put Ferrari in grade 4 . Level 5 had wanted a Ferrari in their car , along with Pecom and Vitaphone were looking at a Maseratti engine , but no time .

Moretti brought Ferrari back with the 333SP ..... I think its possible , but maybe not for next year . have Ferrari said a definat no ?

CTD · 15 Oct 2011, 10:39 (Ref:2971505)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I wouldnt put Ferrari in grade 4 . Level 5 had wanted a Ferrari in their car , along with Pecom and Vitaphone were looking at a Maseratti engine , but no time .

Moretti brought Ferrari back with the 333SP ..... I think its possible , but maybe not for next year . have Ferrari said a definat no ?

Ferrari got their hands full with Red Bull in F1 - I don't think it's the right time refocus parts of the team. (and this is as long Ferrari is dominant in F1, so until then, i don't think they even discuss LMP1 plans)

Simmi · 15 Oct 2011, 11:44 (Ref:2971520)

I think we'd only ever see Ferrari when the WEC becomes too big to ignore. It COULD get there but it would need literally all of their road car rivals to be in LMP1.

Mal · 15 Oct 2011, 11:47 (Ref:2971522)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I think we'd only ever see Ferrari when the WEC becomes too big to ignore. It COULD get there but it would need literally all of their road car rivals to be in LMP1.

You say that but few of their road car rivals are in F1.

Most are in GT in one form or another, but I cant see a full works team going for anything other than overall wins.

Simmi · 15 Oct 2011, 14:54 (Ref:2971568)

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Originally Posted by Mal

You say that but few of their road car rivals are in F1.

Very true but F1 is their bread and butter and they will be there regardless. In order for them to double up and go to the WEC I think they would have to have a large incentive. We'll see.

deggis · 16 Oct 2011, 07:48 (Ref:2971802)

If Ferrari is too busy, maybe some other member of the FIAT family, specifically the other red one...

**FIRE** · 16 Oct 2011, 10:31 (Ref:2971855)

I don't see that happen with Alfa performing not very good and even rumors FIAT wants to sale the brand (to VW).

Mal · 17 Oct 2011, 11:49 (Ref:2972595)

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Originally Posted by deggis

If Ferrari is too busy, maybe some other member of the FIAT family, specifically the other red one...

The most likely one would be Maserati, I would think..... or Chrysler of course

Mal · 27 Oct 2011, 12:19 (Ref:2977660)

It looks like Jenson Button has his eyes on Le Mans and McLaren are saying they will definitely be back - but not yet.

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3373/...e-Le-Mans-a-go

**batmobile** · 30 Oct 2011, 08:54 (Ref:2978812)

Sebastien Loeb back to Le Mans first as a team owner in 2012 then as a driver ? http://www.lemans.org/en/news/Sebast...wner_5512.html

The Badger · 30 Oct 2011, 12:16 (Ref:2978937)

LMPC isnt a class in the 24 hour race , is it ?

P1 , P2 , GT/Pro and GT/Am ..... thats it as far as I know for future races .

He wants to do P2 in 2014 .

Simmi · 30 Oct 2011, 12:21 (Ref:2978941)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

LMPC isnt a class in the 24 hour race , is it ?

No it isn't. He's not coming back to LM until 2014 with an LMP2 so it's not a problem.

**batmobile** · 2 Nov 2011, 10:30 (Ref:2980534)

New announcement for LMP2 class, Gulf Racing to enter 2 Lola coupe for the WEC :
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ocus-8661.html

CTD · 2 Nov 2011, 10:32 (Ref:2980537)

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Originally Posted by batmobile

New announcement for LMP2 class, Gulf Racing to enter 2 Lola coupe for the WEC :
http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ocus-8661.html

Looks like the death for an AMR LMP next year!

But sweet with two Gulf Coupes running around

Pilgrimage · 23 Nov 2011, 09:30 (Ref:2990351)

http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/mcla...d-mclaren.html

Would love to see this...

Victor_RO · 23 Nov 2011, 10:53 (Ref:2990395)

With the news of Brundle/Brundle/TBA in a Greaves LMP2 Zytek for next year's race, Endurance-Info reports (probably stating the obvious a bit) that the team will take up both its automatic entries for Le Mans 2012.

Mystery · 23 Nov 2011, 22:23 (Ref:2990652)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

With the news of Brundle/Brundle/TBA in a Greaves LMP2 Zytek for next year's race, Endurance-Info reports (probably stating the obvious a bit) that the team will take up both its automatic entries for Le Mans 2012.

Hope they can talk Mr Blundell into taking a ride. He's done very well this year considering.

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