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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:28 (Ref:3266959)   #751
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It just feels so absurd. The crash did not look that bad, compared to McNish or Rockenfeller in 2011...and they dust themselves off and that's it.

Everybody thought the LMPs taking off would get somebody killed one day...not a GTE car that feels like a tank in comparison. Hard to process really.

This is just devastating and I fear it will lead to a very nasty Le Mans safety concern discussion.
There HAS to be a discussion about the safety of the Armco barriers in this situation, because if what appeared to have happened actually happened, then their use in today's motorsport has to be in question, especially when there's better technology available.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:28 (Ref:3266960)   #752
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All I can think is that Allan was doing what he loved when he left us for a better place.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:29 (Ref:3266961)   #753
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If the current speculation as to the exact circumstances of the accident is correct then the softer wall would have had no real effect, as the car penetrated the existing solid wall.
Armco vs Concrete, don't have to be a scientist to figure out which is stronger and will hold up better to a race car.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:29 (Ref:3266962)   #754
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I suggest we stop the petty could've/couldn't have and would've/wouldn't have and let him rest in peace.
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In mixed conditions, Heidfeld has been perhaps the best driver in the field if you ask me, considering the car he has.


EDIT: just typed this as he spun....
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:30 (Ref:3266964)   #756
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Sad for this to happen. In the blink of an eye someone is gone. Peoples lives are changed for the worse. What could/will be done? Two barriers, remove the tree?
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Devastating news, a big hug to Alan´s family, friends and colleagues.
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You knew things were quite bad when they interviewed Oliver Gavin and he said he could see marks on a tree at the point of interview, but even then you could never believe that Allan was gone.

Davidsons pace is quite good at the moment.
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Sped finally made the announcement. And then went to commercials
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Armco vs Concrete, don't have to be a scientist to figure out which is stronger and will hold up better to a race car.
Concrete would have been just as lethal. Ideally you want neither.

RIP Allan. You were one very capable racing driver.
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RIP Allan and thoughts are with the AMR team but especially his family and friends in Denmark and Australia.
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Horrible news.

Best wishes to his friends and family. Won't be the same without him.
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RIP Alan. Tragic news. Was hopeful when they said he was conscious but it did not look good on the drivers side

Condolences to all family, friends and motorsport colleagues. Very sad news.
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In mixed conditions, Heidfeld has been perhaps the best driver in the field if you ask me, considering the car he has.


EDIT: just typed this as he spun....
Right! Just as you say it too. Tire rubbing it seems.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:31 (Ref:3266977)   #766
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Keep in mind GTE driver are more lateral and the Prototype drivers are more center line. I wonder if something intruded into the driver compartment? Also I believe the Hans device works better on front to back impacts than lateral impacts.
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Shocking. Didn't look like a bad crash to be honest. As others have said, there have been far more devastating looking incidents in recent years. Such a shame, a great loss.
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Davidson is impressive and has been all day.
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will Aston Martin retire?!?!?
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If the current speculation as to the exact circumstances of the accident is correct then the softer wall would have had no real effect, as the car penetrated the existing solid wall.
I don't see how he'd been able to penetrate a SAFER barrier though, especially with a flat sideways impact like he had. Unlike armco, which at least at Le Mans consists of 'lengths' stacked three high with gaps between them, the plating in front of the soft blocks in the SAFER barrier is more of a single 'sheet'.
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Old 22 Jun 2013, 16:35 (Ref:3266984)   #772
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I knew something was up when they brought the car into parc ferme and the cockpit was covered up. IIRC I've never seen a car like that. Possibly armco coming through the cockpit? Or as others have said an issue with a tree?
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It's hard to focus on that now but is it just me or are things looking increasingly good for Toyota?
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Shocking. Didn't look like a bad crash to be honest. As others have said, there have been far more devastating looking incidents in recent years. Such a shame, a great loss.
I agreed, shocking.

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