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12 Jul 2017, 18:56 (Ref:3750768) | #1 | |
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6 Hours of Nurburgring
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Circuit Map Time Table Official Website Live Timing Spotter Guide Time Table PDF Format Entry List TV Details Fantasy Racing ---------------------- Pre-Race Notes » The Nürburgring 6 Hours sees the debut of the Porsche 919 high downforce aero kit. Porsche used the low downforce bodywork at Silverstone and Spa to maximise testing time of the kit before Le Mans. With only 2 bodywork variations allowed for 2017, Porsche and Toyota are expected to move to high downforce for the rest of the season. » Ben Hanley will sub for Alex Lynn in the #26 G-Drive Racing ORECA. Lynn is on Formula E duty for DS Virgin Racing, replacing Jose Maria Lopez, who cannot be released from his Toyota LMP1 commitments. Hanley is currently competing in ELMS for DragonSpeed, who also operate the ELMS based G-Drive car. G-Drive offered the empty seat to Laurens Vanthoor after the Porsche works driver tested the car during the Le Mans test day, but turned it down to focus on his Porsche IMSA work. » Robert Merhi makes a return to Manor, replacing Jean-Eric Vergne who is racing for Techeetah during the WEC Formula E clash. Merhi competed in Formula 2 earlier this year for Campos Racing. » Toni Vilander will replace Sam Bird in the #71 AF Corse Ferrari 488. Bird is another driver competing in the New York Formula E event. Vilander is a Ferrari regular, racing for Risi Competizione in the IMSA Weather Tech Series. It will be the first WEC race outside of Le Mans for Vilander since 2015. » IMSA stars Pipo Derani and Filipe Albuquerque join Vaillante Rebellion for the Nürburgring. Derani replaces Nelson Piquet Jr in the #13 car, whilst Albuquerque subs for Bruno Senna in the #31. Piquet and Senna are…you guessed it, racing in the New York ePrix. » Formula E and WEC have agreed to work together to avoid major clashes in the future. The New York ePrix clashes with the Nurburgring 6 Hours, harming both series. Formula E Championship leader Sebastian Buemi, and fellow Toyota driver Jose Maria Lopez will skip the ePrix to prioritise LMP1 duties. Other drivers have opted to attend the ePrix, leaving G-Drive, Rebellion, Manor and AF Corse looking for replacement drivers. » The #26 G-Drive ORECA will serve a three-minute stop and go penalty at the Nürburgring. The penalty was issued after the Le Mans 24 hours after Roman Rusinov made contact with the #88 Proton Porsche in the opening laps of the race. A further suspended three-minute stop and go hangs over the car for the following three rounds should the car be involved in any more incidents. » The FIA has clarified the medical light issue highlighted by Lopez crash at Silverstone. New for 2017, the medical light is in the windscreen and activates on a high g-force impact. Lopez brought his car back to the pits despite the light being active. Drivers now must be examined by medical services. The race director may allow the driver to recover the car to the pits, but only with permission from the FIA Medical Delegate. » The first round of automatic BoP has given Aston Martin a weight break and power increase, whilst the Ford gets heavier. The Vantage GTE receives a 20 kg weight reduction and a 0.1 mm larger restrictor. The Ford GT gains 20 kg. The algorithm does not take into account Le Mans. ------------------------------------ Comments on the quality of the pre-race notes appreciated. I think most know what I'm up to by now. Last edited by joeb; 14 Jul 2017 at 01:27. |
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Excellent intro Akrapovic!
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Weather actually looks good for this weekend. Is today a set up day or is that tomorrow? Because if today was a day that teams were expected to be at the track, you'd expect that photos would've leaked by now.
Especially the new Porsche. Only photo we have of the post LM version is a grainy photo taken at a private test. |
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Great job - thanks Akrapovic!
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12 Jul 2017, 20:37 (Ref:3750796) | #6 | |
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Thanks for opening this. I hope for a good fight up front. I wanna see if Lopez is on it like he was at Le Mans. He impressed and was faster than Lapierre.
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13 Jul 2017, 00:01 (Ref:3750831) | #7 | |
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Will the GT Porsche's finally get a win this weekend? 6 hours is a long way when your car gets tire punctures every 2 hours....
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13 Jul 2017, 08:55 (Ref:3750874) | #9 | |
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If somebody would need a ticket for T4 I will not be able to use mine (one adult and one reduced).Let me know.
TF 110 "I wanna see if Lopez is on it like he was at Le Mans. He impressed and was faster than Lapierre." I noticed it, it was one of 2 great things to watch from Toyota at Le Mans (other one is of course 3'14'791). I think Porsche will be very strong. |
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13 Jul 2017, 12:21 (Ref:3750912) | #11 | |
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Better live timing: https://timing.71wytham.org.uk
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13 Jul 2017, 13:33 (Ref:3750916) | #12 | |
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Nice intro.
It's been too long, I can't wait for this race. Porsche's new high downforce kit up against Toyota's proven kit... it's going to be epic. |
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13 Jul 2017, 23:01 (Ref:3751033) | #13 | |
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This is my first time at the Nurburgring. Does anyone know if it is suitable for spectating from a camping chair? I much prefer that to being in a grandstand
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14 Jul 2017, 01:04 (Ref:3751044) | #14 | ||
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Nice OP Akrapovic
Great to see Toni Vilander back in WEC with AF Corse even if its just for one race. |
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Only places I can think of where this would work is the terraced seating down towards Dunlop(IIRC the individual steps on the terraces are wide enough to set up a non-reclining chair) and the grassy part on the run-up to the chicane shortly before the end of the lap.
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14 Jul 2017, 15:42 (Ref:3751210) | #16 | |
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Looks like Porsche has the advantage in pace so far. They did a qualifying sim so not sure if the gap is true. But they definitely have speed in the car.
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FP2 was red flagged when a photographer accessed a restricted area near the track. He was removed from the track by security and the ACO/FIA Media delegate as banned him from working at any ACO sanctioned events, including the WEC, LMS and Le Mans.
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14 Jul 2017, 20:15 (Ref:3751272) | #18 | ||
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Manor have also been awarded a 7 minute stop and hold penalty for running into a Ford GT while the cars were coming back to the pits during FP2's red flag.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...o-penalty.html |
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14 Jul 2017, 21:23 (Ref:3751289) | #19 | |
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Hard to be optimistic at the front for competition when Davidson says not being lapped would be a victory this weekend.
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Fantastic pre-race notes. Thank you for this! |
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14 Jul 2017, 22:13 (Ref:3751304) | #22 | |
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Because that's what happened last year. The long run pace is closer than the gap from the fast laps. We'll see how they do on used tires as well. Nurburgring seems like a track that is like Silverstone and requires the highest downforce. I'm still optimistic there will be a fight up front.
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14 Jul 2017, 23:39 (Ref:3751310) | #23 | |
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and we always seem to overlook the element of keeping it out of the pitbox...
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Reliability may be a factor, but haven't the cars been relavitely trouble-free during the two 6 hour races? |
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15 Jul 2017, 05:51 (Ref:3751347) | #25 | |
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I think Davidson is saying that the Porsche may be able to make more total downforce and that Nurburgring is not ideal for their package while other tracks should be. In the sc365 article he says they should be good at other tracks. Like how he said last year they were nowhere at Nurburgring, getting lapped and then they won Fuji.
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