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F1's days are numbered anyway with all the heavy weight manufacturers off to Formula Scalectrix the end is nigh.
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The thing I find most depressing about it is the fact that too many people think F1=motor racing. All the things I hear people complain about when talking about F1 in pubs etc are things that other series already do and do very well but they are only interested in watching F1.
F1's two biggest assets IMO are it's tv slots (which they are giving up to go behind paywalls) and the celebrity status of it's drivers. |
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I always thought it was doomed when they gave them paddle gears and clutches.
Give them back the 3rd pedal and a long left hand gear stick. Watch 'em all cock up. |
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Whilst I fully appreciate it’s a simplistic view, less aero and more mechanical grip has to be the answer. They need to; - Severely limit the upper surface aero - Restrict the size and complexity of the front wings - Restrict the size of the rear wings - Enable teams to gain aero back lost from upper surfaces, to underbody aero - Widen the cars to 2200mm For me there is nothing wrong with the width of the cars, id make them even wider to 2200mm, it will help through slower corners. I would also like a maximum wheelbase rule as the cars now are so long, I much prefer shorter cars from an aesthetics point of view, it would also make them twitchier and harder to drive. |
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Imola, May 1994 was the weekend when the very DNA of motorsport, and F1 in particular,changed forever.
That utterly tragic GP, witnessed by millions on TV, was so profoundly numbing that nothing like it was ever going to be allowed to happen again. Safety became paramount, cars, and circuits in particular were reinvented, but something along the way has been lost. F1 will never be the same again, and maybe rightly so.We've traded a raw, hardcore human adrenaline rush for something similar, but much safer and sterile. On balance, maybe that's a good thing. Me, well I certainly won't pay to watch modern F1 and have found MotoGP to be the perfect alternative. |
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I fell asleep during the 2002 Hungarian GP, and woke up to find it was 2027 and Lewis Hamilton had just won his 10th consecutive title. I don't even know who Lewis Hamilton is.
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9 Feb 2018, 13:42 (Ref:3799880) | #107 | |
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Well if someone went to kip in 2002 and woke up again in 2018, they'd probably be amazed to see no refuelling, slick tyres, Paul Ricard and Mexico City (albeit in a slightly sanitised form) back on the calendar and Ferrari, McLaren, Williams, Renault and Sauber the only teams to have kept the same name, although the latter two after a short lived name change. They'd also be interested to hear how Mercedes became so successful
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9 Feb 2018, 16:06 (Ref:3799954) | #110 | |
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I’d rather have more tyre manufacturers than more tyre compounds. I felt the five types of slicks we’ve had the past few seasons are enough
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10 Feb 2018, 10:28 (Ref:3800209) | #111 | ||
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Where is Formula 1 heading? Fans around the globe have voiced there anger at these ridiculous grid penalties which have destroyed races. How do the rule makers react? By restricting teams to three power units per car per season. This could make teams decide to turn there engines down rather than risking chasing a car for a few points. Teams could adopt a strategy of what is the slowest way to win a race. What a time to make Formula 1 PPV. Massive brands like Hugo Boss have dumped F1 and switched to Formula E. Surely that has to be a warning sign when a long term sponsor decides to invest it's money in another race series. Then there was Audi, when they announced there departure from the WEC series some arrogant folks automatically thought that Audi would enter F1 WRONG instead they choose Formula E, another warning sign. I think Formula 1 at the moment is a mess. The racing is boring and predictable and with the restrictions on testing, we will probably find out the championship order in a few weeks at pre season testing. As I say, what a time to make F1 PPV. Completely mad.
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Totally agree. I think it will be much more evident this year and not only in the races but also in qualifying. Teams who find themselves into the next round of qualifying and expect to be the slowest in that group will remain in the pits to protect the power unit. Basically means less bang for your buck for the fans.
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i think of more concern to me is how Renault, RB, and Mclaren will approach it.
perhaps of small concern, but if they either collectively or independently some how find themselves 'intentionally' taking penalties on the same race weekends i think i am going to have a problem with that. |
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the total number of slick compounds available to pirelli and the teams over the year is totally irrelevant to the less obsessive fan. all they need to know is which is the softer one, which is the harder one and what colour they are. it's not like theres every single compound available at every single race... |
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I think you're right, the total number of slick compounds available isn't relevant to the less obsessive or casual fan. Unfortunately, if F1 goes completely behind a pay wall, that will be it for the less obsessive or casual fan and it won't matter how many compounds Pirelli produce. |
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+1 from me.
When Pirelli followed the FIA, teams and FOM's instructions they got moaned at (these tyres don't last long enough). When they attempted something a bit different, they got moaned at (they're not following the contract). When they added compounds that were more durable, they got moaned at (the tyres last way too long!). When they made an extra couple of steps in durability, they got moaned at (we only need two types of tyre). When they added the ultra-stupendo-soft, they got moaned at (because a couple of teams could run them twice as far as some of the others). If I were a tyre manufacturer I'd stay well clear of F1. Nothing is good enough for the fans, nothing at all. |
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Going back a few decades, wasn't there 3 compounds, (an A, B and C tyre) which were taken to all tracks?
What is so different now? |
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What's changed is the tyre manufacturers' attitude towards motor racing (along with some other trade suppliers). They now no longer view this as a marketing exercise, and treat is as just another business opportunity. Gone are the days when a tyre manufacturer would provide free tyres to the teams, and also gone are the days where the vast majority of the races are in Europe. This latter is important because the cost of transporting and servicing such components as tyres is far greater than in days past. |
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The teams had freedom to choose which compound they wished to use to suit their car and track. At pit stops where they changed tyres they could use new tyres of the same compounds. Now they get to choose from a compromised choice where nothing is ideal and they HAVE to use two of the choices during the course of the race.
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I have never really liked this idea of having to choose which compound to use, they should have the freedom. It would make drivers think more about how to set up the car and how to make their strategy work. Imagine a driver trying to get to the end of one set of tyres, that would be fun
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11 Feb 2018, 18:42 (Ref:3800528) | #124 | ||
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One regulation in formula one at the moment that I would so like to see abolished is this stupid ridiculous restriction they have on in season testing. I miss the days when we would hear that the team or teams chasing the leaders have major upgrades coming for the next race and according to recent testing times, it's looks like we are going to get a fight which provided the fans with something to tune in and look forward to. In this era of formula one that hope is gone. The season can be predicted from pre season testing times. Nothing changes during the season. If this testing restriction would have been kicked out a few years back then maybe the McLaren Honda partnership may have worked.
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At Texas last year, IndyCar and Firestone officials decided on competition caution periods and mandatory tyre stops, every 30 green flag laps because of tyre blistering but that's the first time in a long time since there has been a major issue with tyres. |
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