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Old 12 Nov 2018, 14:59 (Ref:3862767)   #1
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The same hybrid system for costs limitation. The ICE architecture will still be free.
This is the first time hearing of that, the press releases so far have spoken quite clearly of bespoke hybrid systems developed by individual manufacturers.

A feeling that Mr Glickenhaus has not actually grasped the proposed regulation package is starting to creep up on me...
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Old 12 Nov 2018, 15:20 (Ref:3862779)   #2
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This is the first time hearing of that, the press releases so far have spoken quite clearly of bespoke hybrid systems developed by individual manufacturers.

A feeling that Mr Glickenhaus has not actually grasped the proposed regulation package is starting to creep up on me...
Assuming that Glickenhaus would be regarded as a privateer entry, from DSC's piece here (this information originally came from one of the ACO releases)

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How is there a difference between the cost for factories and Privateers?
One major difference is that any homologated hybrid drive system used by a factory MUST be made commercially available to a privateer at a fixed cost of 2 Million Euro per season.
What engines are eligible?


Any engine configuration and architecture is eligible with a power limit of 520kW (c.700 bhp), a limit on the number of engines useable per season will be imposed.
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Assuming that Glickenhaus would be regarded as a privateer entry, from DSC's piece here (this information originally came from one of the ACO releases)
Indeed, so unless something has drastically changed in the draft regulations Mr. Glickenhaus would be wise to glance at those documents again...
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Indeed, so unless something has drastically changed in the draft regulations Mr. Glickenhaus would be wise to glance at those documents again...
No, think he's read it correctly. He would be a privateer based on the current standard they've said for the LMP1s and he could buy the hybrid from Toyota, or others. Which is exactly what everyone else has said, and the quoted article lists as well, manufacturers HAVE to make the unit available. And there's no way they would call him a manufacturer, although the ACO it's dumb enough to shoot themselves just to be right
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No, think he's read it correctly. He would be a privateer based on the current standard they've said for the LMP1s and he could buy the hybrid from Toyota, or others. Which is exactly what everyone else has said, and the quoted article lists as well, manufacturers HAVE to make the unit available. And there's no way they would call him a manufacturer, although the ACO it's dumb enough to shoot themselves just to be right
Maybe the wording is being read wrong but it sounded like "the same for all" meant a standard hybrid system, ie spec. That's how I read it at first myself.
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Maybe the wording is being read wrong but it sounded like "the same for all" meant a standard hybrid system, ie spec. That's how I read it at first myself.
I'm not sure there is any other way to read it. The text explicitly says 'homologated hybrid system by a manufacturer'. So any manufacturer can build their own system but has to put it up for sale. I see no way how that can be read as 'same for all'.
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I'm not sure there is any other way to read it. The text explicitly says 'homologated hybrid system by a manufacturer'. So any manufacturer can build their own system but has to put it up for sale. I see no way how that can be read as 'same for all'.
I meant what Mr. Glickenhaus posted. His words made it sound like it was a spec system for the kers. I agree with you about that being contrary to the information out there. Just sounds like a cap on the power and cost. It would be a shame if it was a single supplier, that's not what the fans want.
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