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24 Oct 2022, 14:16 (Ref:4131317) | #1051 | ||||
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But the first sentence also had me thinking, will the ACO give each eligible GT3 manufacturer 2 or 3 entries for them to give to interested teams? Or could we have a situation with 6 Ferraris and 6 Porsche in the future instead of 2 each of 6 different GT3 makes? |
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24 Oct 2022, 14:37 (Ref:4131322) | #1052 | |
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It's going to be super interesting in '24. If they do remove P2 from the WEC and you've got, let's say for simplicity, a 20 car top class full season (I actually think it will be slightly more), then the other 20 or so is made up of GT3s.
So at Le Mans in 2024 (approx): 25 Hypercar (full season plus some extra works cars/IMSA privateers) 25 GT3 (full season plus auto invites and privateers) 12 P2s (ELMS/AsLMS, auto invites) Does that feel about right? Obviously you can limit P2s a bit more but you still want it to be a proper class. Anything less than 10 feels a bit token gesture. But manufacturer money will talk I guess. To come back to the original point, when the WEC full season entries are factored in I don't think there will be loads of room for various auto invites. |
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24 Oct 2022, 18:28 (Ref:4131347) | #1053 | |||
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In a related note, where will the P2 cars all come from in your scenario if they aren't allowed in WEC? Will there be that much interest from ELMS teams? |
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24 Oct 2022, 21:17 (Ref:4131369) | #1055 | ||
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I find the idea of LMP2 just turning up for LM but not being in the WEC a bit weird. And it would be quite a big step up from ELMS LMP2 to WEC Hypercar for teams wanting to do that.
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24 Oct 2022, 21:24 (Ref:4131370) | #1056 | ||
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Is it inevitable that the ACO wants to get rid of LMP2? It’s kinda like the woman that turns up to the wedding wearing a white dress and upstages the bride…
LMP2 just seems to be a problem now for the WEC and ACO, to me it seems they would just rather it go away. |
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24 Oct 2022, 21:29 (Ref:4131371) | #1057 | ||
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LMP2 Endurance Trophy. I can see the merits of simplifying the class structure within WEC. But then you'll only have two races to follow when for years we've been used to four. |
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25 Oct 2022, 01:20 (Ref:4131380) | #1058 | ||
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It’s all an embarrassment of riches at the moment!
I’d make sure that LMP2 is well represented at LM24. Need to keep the stalwarts of that class involved. They’ll be needed when all the manufacturers leave in 2026. I have no idea, but I suspect some teams would like a regional series and LM only. Probably perfect from a cost income perspective. Some the other way I’m sure, but seems ideal - what you mean I don’t have to go to Bahrain? Get in there! |
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25 Oct 2022, 14:24 (Ref:4131411) | #1059 | ||
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Has anything changed in terms of the balance of performance between the hybrid and non-hybrid teams?
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25 Oct 2022, 15:50 (Ref:4131423) | #1060 | |
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can’t agree with this any more. they’re curating something that costs seriously ridiculously big money for everybody, which is great until nobody can afford it any more.
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25 Oct 2022, 20:18 (Ref:4131445) | #1061 | ||||
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IMSA already has a 4 race endurance series that LMP2 cars are eligible for: Daytona, Sebring, Watkins Glen, and Petit. Perhaps trade out Watkins for Le Mans it you've got a winner! |
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26 Oct 2022, 05:07 (Ref:4131461) | #1062 | ||
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I know this is the positivity thread, but I do get a bit of a 2008-vibe with these out-of-the-blue manufacture announcements.
Let us face it, we have a global recession rolling, which will impact motorsport budgets. Many of the announced programs will not live beyond 2024. (My opinion alone, of course) |
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26 Oct 2022, 07:31 (Ref:4131467) | #1063 | ||
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That's an understandable point of view. Even with the focus on keeping costs down, it wouldn't be a shock to see one or two manufacturers withdraw in short order.
But with so many upcoming entries, we hopefully won't be in a Peugeot-esque situation. |
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26 Oct 2022, 08:22 (Ref:4131476) | #1064 | |
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It's the customer car aspect which gives me slightly more hope than previous peaks. I think that can help prolong things slightly.
I do think it's reasonable to expect some short programmes but it does sound like there's more to be announced still. |
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26 Oct 2022, 13:25 (Ref:4131523) | #1065 | ||
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On the flip side, WEC is a lot cheaper than F1. The optimist in me still says Hypercar gives you a lot of bang for your buck.
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26 Oct 2022, 13:48 (Ref:4131524) | #1066 | ||
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26 Oct 2022, 14:52 (Ref:4131532) | #1067 | ||
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I was going to bring up customer cars too. If all the manufacturers go and sell a few cars in the next couple of years we could still be in decent shape.
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5 Nov 2022, 19:12 (Ref:4132705) | #1068 | ||
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Why is the engine cover fin still required?
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5 Nov 2022, 20:03 (Ref:4132712) | #1069 | |
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IronLynx X Lambo works tie-up becomes official
https://twitter.com/IronLynx_/status...84173179518977 |
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5 Nov 2022, 20:52 (Ref:4132719) | #1070 | ||
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It's because of this
'3.10 Aerodynamic stability Regardless of the aerodynamic configuration, the car must fulfill a number of safety criteria to ensure a minimum aerodynamic stability. Compliance with Article 2.3 is understood as a car being aerodynamically stable according to these safety criteria at all times. The criteria acceptance will be validated with Wind Tunnel measurements and/or CFD computations. The complete procedure and acceptance requirements for these criteria are described in the aerodynamic homologation process that can be found in the Appendixes to these regulations.' |
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5 Nov 2022, 22:29 (Ref:4132725) | #1071 | ||
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Yes.
You have to make sure that the vehicle is stable and won’t flip in certain situations. The fin is simply the best and easiest way to do this. If you can do it in another way fine, but why would yo? The fin does it really well. |
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6 Nov 2022, 02:49 (Ref:4132758) | #1072 | |
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Ferrari has their unique end plates for this reason. But I think they had a little fun with the liberties that the rules allow. The fin is hardly featured on the Peugeot.
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6 Nov 2022, 07:53 (Ref:4132771) | #1073 | ||
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I thought the fin was to direct airflow to the rear wing whilst the car is in a state of yaw/cornering? How come F1 cars used this fin, but now they have removed it on the current cars?
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6 Nov 2022, 13:49 (Ref:4132785) | #1074 | ||
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7 Nov 2022, 15:44 (Ref:4132902) | #1075 | ||
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The fin prevents the car from spinning in the vertical axis in a big crash.
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