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And in any case GT3 already runs in the Michelin Le Mans Cup, so it's a pretty short barge pole.
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For the edifice of WyldStallion who is a rather new member to the forum, Napolis is Jim Glickenhaus. Jim has been very open and honest on this forum regarding his groups racing activities, and with their forthcoming LMH entry it’s safe to say has better insight into the mindset of of the FIA/ACO than the vast majority of us on here! |
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Sadly, VAG/Audi Sport/Porsche Motorsport got burned on spending $150 million a year as an OEM for the WEC for little return outside of Le Mans. No one held a gun to their heads to spend that much, but between the ACO's regs and that in part leading to an almost F1-esque tech/R&D war, I can't exactly blame them for favoring LMDH, especially since the cars are eligible in more championships (hence they can sell more).
Right now, LMH isn't eligible for IMSA, who basically want LMDH to be DPI 2.0 to entice cash-conscious OEMs. Mind you, if Audi and Porsche committed to LMH and Toyota wanted to send a team stateside for IMSA, I'd bet that they'd change their tune pretty quick... And I'd argue that for Audi post R8 era, they don't need racing to sell cars. Product placement in Marvel films probably sold way more cars than their participation in the ALMS did. And the R10 dominating the ALMS didn't exactly set diesel car sales on fire in North America (while in Europe they were preaching to the crowd). And renting cars out to Marvel Comics for their films probably cost a fraction of the $15 million they spent on the ALMS in '08. Simply put, money isn't floating around for OEMs or even sanctioning bodies to blow like it was about 10, 15, 20 years ago. IMO, auto racing is an ultimate bubble economy. Last edited by chernaudi; 23 Dec 2020 at 19:37. |
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I really doubt it. There'll just be a bigger "quota" for GTE Am cars until the class is replaced by something new maybe around 2025. Maybe by GT3 or whatever's in vogue by then.
I just can't see ACO pulling the rug from under dozens of privateers who have just bought GTE cars, which now include Astons. Quote:
PPS: If IMSA didn't have to wait until 2023 for LMDh to arrive, they'd probably not bother with GTD Pro either... that's if they do that at all. Perhaps we'll see a pair pointy yellow midengined LMDh cars instead of pointy yellow midengined GTLM cars that they call Corvette these days. Last edited by Pandamasque; 23 Dec 2020 at 20:50. |
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Side note: I hope Jim G is considering running the Sebring 24 hours in November 2021 by the way. I liked that overnight break format actually. Not for the blue ribbon events but for unique event like this it could be neat. Help get more daylight racing too. |
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Inter Europol Competition will run with Kuba Śmiechowski (no surprise there) and Alex Brundle + Renger van der Zande.
Van der Zande will be replaced by Helio Castroneves at Sebring. Bloody hell, I need to buy some bread now. |
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According to Glickenhaus, maybe Sebring in March will be cancelled...
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Highly likely, I would think.....
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Indy Car are thinking of postponing St. Pete, so it stands to reason if that happens, Sebring could also get postponed or the NA date will get moved to another time or possibly track.
And as with last year, with the WEC's logistics, it might be easier to cancel Sebring or move it to the end of the season than try and reschedule it. Also might depend on what IMSA does with the 12 Hours as far as them moving their date to later in the season. Never the less, Glickenhaus anticipates that they won't do Sebring if it happens as scheduled. They plan on debuting their car in competition at Spa, with the roll out later this month. Toyota plan on launching their car publicly in 10 days from now for reference. |
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Me too have big concerns about WEC sebring, US covid pandemic is getting worse and worse and despite the vaccine it's unlikely things will get a lot better in about 2 months. I'm sure sebring 12H is more likely to happen because all IMSA teams are US based, but in these conditions delivery cars and make fly hundreds of people from europe to US and back will be a logistic nightmare (not to consider extremely dangerous to people health). Also F1 postponed the australian race and bahrain aside, for the first half of championship will likely try to avoid races outside europe.
Solution could be to race in april in monza, and replace monza with silverstone in august. |
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The last I heard is that it is a go for the 12Hours of Sebring. For a WEC point of view, it is a 50/50. Some WEC teams will be already in the states as they will run at Daytona.
The IMSA and the WEC paddack were clearly seperated in Sebring 2 years ago so the risk of cross contamination is low between the two bubbles. The nightmare will be logiticaly but protocols have been developped since the outbrake of the virus a year afo so it should be manageable. |
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as IMSA owns Sebring and Florida covid restrictions are lax but WEC Sebring for Euro based teams? We don't see it happening. The recent US political craziness doesn't help either. We think Portimo in late April more likely start of season. We would make that race with our two cars. |
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this crybaby attitude of toyota every year is getting annoying.... they saw last year an equal fight with rebellion before Le Mans....now the wheel turned....and they see it differently.... In my opinion after 3 somewhat hollow victory...(it would have been much more deserved in 2016) it is time that they get sweat... I personally cheer up for Glickenhaus....for different reasons (David vs. Goliath, ICE vs. hybrid) Alpine, TGR, Glickenhaus...3 different approaches, technical and political as well.... I do hope ACO let them fight....Rebellion never got the chance....but it is a new era... |
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