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Old 14 Jan 2014, 21:23 (Ref:3354034)   #226
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well i think it is only illegal because you do not have to pay, no ticket's needed
True, although you do get a free arrest (or a metaphorical clip round the ear at least) from the gendarmes if you get caught!
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 09:23 (Ref:3354173)   #227
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why? they are public restaurants is it illegal to visit them in france now under the new regime, why would the police be doing that, i know the views of the mulsanne are restricted by fences etc but doubt the police will be bothered with people walking to a restaurant and getting a drink in the bar or standing in the car park
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 10:37 (Ref:3354199)   #228
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You misunderstand Simon. You can access and eat in the restaurants. You just can't see the cars from inside any more. You can wander off and sneak through the bushes and hedges - that's the illegal bit.......
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 14:01 (Ref:3354258)   #229
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Depends on what you are up to, in said bushes...
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 14:05 (Ref:3354261)   #230
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 17:22 (Ref:3354332)   #231
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You misunderstand Simon. You can access and eat in the restaurants. You just can't see the cars from inside any more. You can wander off and sneak through the bushes and hedges - that's the illegal bit.......
I cannot believe anyone would do that
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 17:29 (Ref:3354334)   #232
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Old 15 Jan 2014, 17:55 (Ref:3354349)   #233
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I do have some footage somewhere that I took quite a few years ago from said bushes....... You can't see anything much (it was during the night) but the sound is pretty cool.......
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 15:12 (Ref:3363269)   #234
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I've tried to make a map with Mark up with the access areas and good spots mentioned in this thread.
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I'm not sure the Indianapolis section goes that far anymore
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Old 2 Feb 2014, 16:53 (Ref:3363288)   #235
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I'm not sure the Indianapolis section goes that far anymore
I think you are right - unfortunately, I've updated the map.

Does anyone know if it's possible to access "La Maison Neuve"? during the race?
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I think you are right - unfortunately, I've updated the map.

Does anyone know if it's possible to access "La Maison Neuve"? during the race?
I always wonder how for you could get when you go down the small paths on the inside to get to the track. Would love to try it sometime but then again don't want to waste a couple of hours to get turned around in the end.
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Old 3 Feb 2014, 18:31 (Ref:3363715)   #237
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I always wonder how for you could get when you go down the small paths on the inside to get to the track. Would love to try it sometime but then again don't want to waste a couple of hours to get turned around in the end.
Exactly. If you look on Google Maps, it looks like there is a spectator spot:
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Old 3 Feb 2014, 18:57 (Ref:3363726)   #238
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Exactly. If you look on Google Maps, it looks like there is a spectator spot:
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If I one day manages to get a bike with me to Le Mans, I might do the trip.
That's exactly the place I was looking for. And this place looks interesting. (the green arrow)
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Eric, do you know anything about the area? (if you are watching the thread )
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That's exactly the place I was looking for. And this place looks interesting. (the green arrow)
Been to both, liked the one closer to the first kink better because cars are just about to enter their braking zone. The other area is closer to the track though.

The entire area between Tetre Rouge and Indianapolis is restricted - with the exception of Mulsanne´s outside campsite and spectators area. Used to wonder into the woods at least once per year and see where we would end up, such marvelous spots to be discovered! One of the privileges of being a marshal I know...
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Eric, do you know anything about the area? (if you are watching the thread )
Entry is thru Les Petites Casnieres, the road leading towards the local soccer complex, this will lead you to the Maison Neuf road almost at the end before the road runs dead when reaching the track.

Problem are the checkpoints, first one is already on the Beausejour roundabout where you are not allowed to go in eastern direction on D92 (towards the Mulsanne straight) unless you have the proper credentials. A second one is set up on Les Petites Casnieres itself.
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Entry is thru Les Petites Casnieres, the road leading towards the local soccer complex, this will lead you to the Maison Neuf road almost at the end before the road runs dead when reaching the track.

Problem are the checkpoints, first one is already on the Beausejour roundabout where you are not allowed to go in eastern direction on D92 (towards the Mulsanne straight) unless you have the proper credentials. A second one is set up on Les Petites Casnieres itself.
So you can hook us up right? Distract some of the people at the checkpoint so we can sneak through
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Entry is thru Les Petites Casnieres, the road leading towards the local soccer complex, this will lead you to the Maison Neuf road almost at the end before the road runs dead when reaching the track.

Problem are the checkpoints, first one is already on the Beausejour roundabout where you are not allowed to go in eastern direction on D92 (towards the Mulsanne straight) unless you have the proper credentials. A second one is set up on Les Petites Casnieres itself.
So you can't access those points?
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So you can hook us up right? Distract some of the people at the checkpoint so we can sneak through
I would have loved to take a couple of you with me but I won´t be at Le Mans this year... You could try and see if one of my Dutch colleagues at marshals post 123 is willing to take you there???

[Marshals post 123 is on the inside of the track, right next to the old karting pit complex that is being demolished]
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Marshall map. Number of posts are distances on the track. So 123 means 12.3 kms from the start/finish line.

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So for allmost 2 kilometers on the outside of the Mulsanne to Indianapolis run, there's nobody to be found if one'd plan a deepnight guardrail expedition.

Just saying....
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Who'll immediatly confiscate your tickets when they catch you, as I've heard.
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That map (good job!) really highlights how much of the track is out of bounds. It's such a shame but understandable from a safety point of view. Surely some sort of access could be possible at the Mulasanne chicanes one day. Please...
Had a dream about being able to view from the Mulsanne chicane. There was basically a massive bridge across the road with windows. Thinking about it, it was basically the pit straight on the Shanghai circuit but with more glass.



Now that would be good!
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