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McNish was otherwise considered good enough, whatever that means to Audi - not just pace but also his ability to get through traffic quickly, even though there was a not-insignificant chance of crashing as you've pointed out.
I'm not saying it was necessarily right to keep McNish or to sack Lapierre but both cases can be argued either way. |
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I sort meant that the Lapierre incidents were more like fly footsteps on top of cake that had been sitting on back seat of van for two summer months The (relative lack of) pace was the actual issue, on track incidents including embarrassing mistakes in crucial moments can happen to drivers with good reputation too.
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Vasselon: “This Kind of Accident Shouldn’t Have Happened”
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Seems increasingly likely indeed in view of Vasselon's statements.
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Well it damaged the tub and hurt kazuki so I'd guess there's some truth in the statement regarding the speeds.
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no crash video ?
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1 May 2015, 16:02 (Ref:3532580) | #2484 | |
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Tbh I find it a bit strange that the driver gets so seriously injured from that kind of crash. I don't remember ever hearing a driver hurting his back in a front impact crash.
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The difference is that Audi still won the race. So they did not only displayed the speed and reliability of the car but also how safe they are when drivers can jump out of the cars after such crashes completely undamaged (goes for Rocky as well) . Furthermore, the times have changed dramatically. The competition is much stronger and the cars are closer together and most likely reliable enough so that one or more cars of each manufacturer drives untroubled to the end. There is no more margin to allow slower drivers in these cars and still hope for a win. |
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Times have changed. From couple of decades past yes, but not from the beginning of this decade (except maybe this year). Or are you somehow implying that the 2013/2014 cars are more reliable and closer together than they were in 2011? |
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For sure in the particular moment in was stupid to make that move. But in the end they still won and that's all that counts. I think they would have made other decisions about their next year drivers if they wouldn't have won. |
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Oh toyota is so slow . Sad,sad
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They're quite quick actually, they broke the qualifying record as well. It's just that the VAG bros are quite a bit quicker still, and we've seen that either most or all of that pace can be carried over a race distance.
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http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/v...have-happened/ A quick quote... Quote:
If they were to try to attack this problem, I suspect a crushable structure under the seat might work. But then you don't want the harness to go loose as the seat crushes under you. Richard |
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Looks like TMG's low budget is hurting them once again. Even though they were able to improve on last year's car, they got pretty much caught off guard by the gains made by both Porsche and Audi. And the fact that they could not bring their LM kit hurts them even more.
I thought they would be much closer at Spa, but it looks like they are even further off than at Silverstone. |
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Although a new car, the 40 is often mentioned to be an evolution of the 30 if I'm not mistaken??
Perhaps it's reached it's peak so to speak, and Toyota need a revolution? |
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I spoke to some Toyota chap in the pits today, he said that Naks is out for LM. He also said they are making their mind up on the third driver, as I mentioned it must be your reserve driver. He said no not at all we maybe get someone else.
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What is Nic Minassian up to these days?
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Audi and Porsche improved much more their cars in each single aspect and now we see results: 919 ran in 1.54-1.55; R18 in 1.55; TS040 1.57 (barely). Of course, need to say that both TS040 weren't in LM bodywork but... |
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Getting sick and tired of this German conglomerate conspiracy trying to rule Le Mans til the end of days.No being silly here .
But nonetheless at the least remarkable the gains Porsche and Audi have been able to make in comparison with Toyota.Rather have all cars a bit closer for Le Mans.Makes for better racing yall |
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Oh yeah in terms of parts they probably share very very little. I'm more talking about the overall concept the car is based around. Racecar engineering states that the aero is a 'deep evolution' of that which was on the 30. They're going to be using batteries next season (not sure how much that will influence the design.) so perhaps we will be getting a 050??
Toyota are 10mph down on the Audi's, but slower through the twistys. Going to be a long race for them tomorrow. |
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Toyota could be running a harder tire compound. Last season they did that as it fit better with the demands on race day. China is a good example. Plus they are running the high downforce car, look at Audi's high downforce car's pace. Another thought was their setup. Are they running a setup expecting mixed conditions? There are a few things that could explain why theyre off pace if its not just down to the cars speed, which is the most logical conclusion.
Audi still uses last year's chassis, not just Toyota. And 1:57.3/1:57.5 is not 'barely' in the 57's from the #1. |
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I was thinking the same thing. Running the high downforce car and being off the pace is one thing, but still being faster than the high downforce Audi is the other. I have a feeling that they will be on par in June.
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