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There are lots of things that could specced, like brakes, suspension, gearbox, ecu and rims and even rear wings. Leave chassis, engines and bodywork to the constructors, and a fairly cheap P car can be built. Especially with a cost cap on these things.
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So LMP regulations...
The Big Honking Fin. At one point, the ACO were planning to make it smaller. What's happening on that front? |
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Once they introduced the concept to the world as a "safety enhancement", I don't believe they will ever have the balls to admit it's a crap idea and simply remove them as they will be seen to be liable the next time a proto takes off. The holes and the fin are sodding ugly and totally ridiculous 'solutions'. As a temporary sticky plaster I could just about accept them but being written into new regulations is beyond lame. Rant over. |
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http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....postcount=1834 Clearly the sideways stability could not be maintained... |
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Seems like the FIA asked if anyone had any better ideas and none were forthcoming.
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I think it hasn't been pointed out yet that the 120km/h AWD rule is not in the 2014 draft. Either it has never been or Audi successfully lobbied its removal (especially after this years findings...).
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26 Oct 2012, 23:42 (Ref:3158272) | #2536 | |
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Can't the closed top prototypes use roof flaps?
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VdeV cars are cost capped to ~100k€ and some of the have carbon fiber tubs as well.
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The December 2012 edition of RCE has an interview with John Judd: http://gb.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue...&prev=sub&p=26
Judd believes that he can produce a competitive gasoline for 2014. Quote:
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The article also explains that in 2013 LMP2 engines must last longer between rebuilds.
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OT: How did you manage to copy text from the Zinio article preview?
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I just read the RCE article on the unraced 908 HYbrid 4. It seems that Peugeot was highly successful at influencing the hybrid regulations to their advantage.
1) Peugeot convinced the ACO to reduce the capacity of hybrids from 1 MJ to 500 kJ. Peugeot states "economic reasons", but in reality they could not do 1 MJ with their battery based system. Quote:
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I wonder whether there will be any changes in 2013 hybrid rules. Toyota clearly has a big advantage because they can use their hybrid system from 0 km/h. Maybe the 120 km/h limitation should also apply to rear hybrid systems. Of course, this would mean that Toyota would not be able to use the hybrid system in the pitlane. Audi could use a rule change in their favor, because otherwise Toyota will completely dominate the 2013 WEC. |
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As for Toyota dominating the 2013 WEC? It's not domination if you don't win Le Mans, just ask the board of directors at Velizy. |
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Toyota completely dominated Sao Paulo and Shanghai this year. With some developments during the winter, Toyota will probably humiliate Audi everywhere next year. |
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That one probably comes down to relative fuel tank sizes and fuel flow restrictors on the filler hoses more than anything else.
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http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newssept12.html sort of confirms that Wirth Research will have a LMP1 (coupe!) in 2014.
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On the race broadcast, the RLM guys were speculating that 1MJ per braking zone would be introduced next season since there is no Peugeot. In my opinion, Audi has 4wd and 4wd shouldn't be full time/anytime. That's the direction they chose knowing it's 120kmh+. And if the rules are rewrote to make 4wd full time/anytime, Toyota could do the same in 2014 if they choose to. So their decision to run 4wd may only have worked to their favor for one season- this season, unless they allow that change for next year? But, that doesn't look likely and only 2014 could see this allowed, by which time Toyota or Porsche could do the same thing!
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