2015 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour: 6-8 February

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Did Stefan Mücke push the Bentley off in the last corner on the final lap?

Good question, the Bentley did lock a brake going into the chase, but we didn't see what happened in the last corner.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by scudd

No need to look for mistake photos of anyone.

VR team did a stellar job.

I can't post pics but there's a ripper of #32 shooting flames and glowing discs after the chase.

Congrats scudd to your team and the VR mob, well done and thanks for your efforts.

[FIRE]

Great race. I prefer this race over the Spa 24 hours.

Nice to see Nissan win.

[Rodger Davies]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Did Stefan Mücke push the Bentley off in the last corner on the final lap?

There's not been conclusive video proof yet, but he went in just behind the Bentley, the Bentley went wide (when you'd expect it to break early), and the Aston had damage to it's front-right when it crossed the line. The evidence would suggest 'yes'.

The same driver also didn't get pinged for the crash with Brabham, which is a difficult one to judge because he definitely got alongside, but it looked like he was planning on using the Bentley as a brake.

[miatanut]

Originally Posted by chavez

A couple of points re the TV coverage.

3. Despite being an endurance race the director tended to ignore what was going on in the pits. The commentators would offen comment that so and so was in the pits but the poor viewer was left without pictures.

I thought this was one of the most appealing things about the broadcast. With action all over the track, it has always escaped me why they show a bunch of folks working on a car.

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

Have to profoundly disagree with those who criticise the start in the dark. Maybe it's the Le Mans diet I've grown up on, but racing in the pure dark is absolute magic and the fact it's the start of the race adds something to it too.

Agreed! It was only 20 minutes of dark, but it was very appealing, and then off to race in the light, like a "normal" race.

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by Alan52

There was no telecast of V8 test last year.

hence the increase in numbers

[Nadz44]

Originally Posted by Miguel

Did Stefan Mücke push the Bentley off in the last corner on the final lap?

I was just before the last corner about the 100m braking mark, from what I seen the Bentley had taken the inside line to defend while the audi was on the outside trying a passing move, the aston was right up the Bentleys bum, the Bentley pushed a little too hard into the corner which pushed him out wide into the audi and the aston with the extra room managed to get up the inside to make it a 3 wide corner, the 3 come together and they emerged as they did in the order they finished....

That's my look at it anyway from where I was standing..

[Matt]

Originally Posted by chavez

1. The number of trackside camers was far too few. What was acceptable in 1985 is not acceptable now - especially with no aerial coverage.

Seemed to be the same amount of cameras as the V8's, just without the one mounted on the inside of the cutting.

Also, those that were there...how dark was it at the beginning?

The horizon made it seem like it was just early sunrise where you'd be able to see everything clearly at the track, but it was much darker on camera.

PERSONALLY, I'd like to see the front straight lit up, and have a few light pods around the track in key places, such as the chase, skyline, the dipper, the cutting, and forrests elbow.

[TCR]

It certainly wasn't pitch black. Between the commentary, lights, engine notes and the available light it was easy enough to make who was where.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Matt

Seemed to be the same amount of cameras as the V8's, just without the one mounted on the inside of the cutting.

No helicopters, definitely less in-cars, didn't have the pit straight spider cam.

Very little coverage of murrays corner during the race. Was the camera man moving between cameras Hardly any pit action

Its probably very unfair to compare the two though. Obviously the 1000km race is a significantly bigger production due to its larger audience and the amount of income it brings in (for the broadcaster) as a result.

Lets hope that in years the 12 hour can attract a larger audience so that the funds can be invested for a better coverage.

I didnt like the scroll of the positions along the top of the screen. I took to long to show the leader and by then you had forgotten about it

[david5]

Loved the dark start. Hated the gazebos on the fence up the top. Interestingly there are signs down the bottom saying you cant have your gazebo on the fence. Was a bit of a bogan presence but the man that ****ed me off up the top had a plumby accent and a dear stalker cap and was appalled when I suggested he remove his tent from the fence lol. Camp was very full but no bad behavior and the esky races stopped on dark so all good.

[Lagunaseca_4life]

Everything was great and enjoyable for me,I really liked the morning darkness start into the afternoon,very different. Only thing was all the FCYs,but it's something Im used to now with Imsa and all.all that fcy time and disruption of flow has got me read for sebring.

I look forward to next year and hope they can keep a balanced car count of gt3/4 and production class.

[jd yort]

I was expecting more people based on the hype leading into it. The camping ground was full but did not feel overcrowded. The bogan contingent was small in number on our side of the camping area. Only incident was the tool who drove around on Sunday morning beeping the horn. Apart from McPhilliamy and to a lesser extent the Chase there was not too many issues with Gazebo's blocking all the fence lines.

The presentation was a shocker, pimp my ride on the screen may have been better. In terms of supports, always enjoy IP but paid no attention to FFord or Radicals. They really really really really need to get Production Sports cars up there for a 1hr enduro on Saturday. They are the perfect fit for the meeting. The car show was poor apart from the Lamborghini’s / Ferraris which may not of even been part of it.

Still no team merchandise other than Nismo and generic 12hr regalia which had improved (Scudd take note and get some tasteful t-shirts done for 2016 assault please).

Happy for Scudd and Phil to have both cars running at the pointy end and completing the race. The meeting still had that great vibe about it which will keep me coming back for years to come despite the increase in catch fencing.

[JDM1980]

GM keen to bring Corvette and Caddy to B12. 2 Camaro's in Aus already so they are likely starters in 2016

http://autoaction.com.au/general-mot...hurst-12-hour/

[Reload]

Originally Posted by jd yort

I was expecting more people based on the hype leading into it. The camping ground was full but did not feel overcrowded. The bogan contingent was small in number on our side of the camping area. Only incident was the tool who drove around on Sunday morning beeping the horn. Apart from McPhilliamy and to a lesser extent the Chase there was not too many issues with Gazebo's blocking all the fence lines.

The presentation was a shocker, pimp my ride on the screen may have been better. In terms of supports, always enjoy IP but paid no attention to FFord or Radicals. They really really really really need to get Production Sports cars up there for a 1hr enduro on Saturday. They are the perfect fit for the meeting. The car show was poor apart from the Lamborghini’s / Ferraris which may not of even been part of it.

Still no team merchandise other than Nismo and generic 12hr regalia which had improved (Scudd take note and get some tasteful t-shirts done for 2016 assault please).

Happy for Scudd and Phil to have both cars running at the pointy end and completing the race. The meeting still had that great vibe about it which will keep me coming back for years to come despite the increase in catch fencing.

Clearwater and TFM were selling team shirts, but don't know how many or for how long ?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by JDM1980

GM keen to bring Corvette and Caddy to B12. 2 Camaro's in Aus already so they are likely starters in 2016

http://autoaction.com.au/general-mot...hurst-12-hour/

I got the impression for this years race that a car could not be new for 2015 model. It had to meet the 2014 BOP. (Its quite probably i have misunderstood that though), which is part of why we didnt see the new Maclaren.


Thus neither of those cars will meet the criteria for next years race unless they come out during this year.

[JDM1980]

Originally Posted by peckstar

I got the impression for this years race that a car could not be new for 2015 model. It had to meet the 2014 BOP. (Its quite probably i have misunderstood that though), which is part of why we didnt see the new Maclaren.

Thus neither of those cars will meet the criteria for next years race unless they come out during this year.

hey Peckster,I'm pretty sure Caddy and Camaro did the BOP in Sept 2014 so they should be eligeble for race next year... C7 Vette unlikely as its still being developed by Callaway.Expected debut around June 2015 in German GT category.... C6 would be fine and race winning record holder in German GT series and still competitive in european GT racing... Trofeo has a current spec C6 GT3 in the garage so easy access if someone wanted to use her.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by JDM1980

hey Peckster,I'm pretty sure Caddy and Camaro did the BOP in Sept 2014 so they should be eligeble for race next year... C7 Vette unlikely as its still being developed by Callaway.Expected debut around June 2015 in German GT category.... C6 would be fine and race winning record holder in German GT series and still competitive in european GT racing... Trofeo has a current spec C6 GT3 in the garage so easy access if someone wanted to use her.

cheers

Caddy vs Bentley. i like it

[Shane001]

Originally Posted by JDM1980

Trofeo has a current spec C6 GT3 in the garage so easy access if someone wanted to use her.

Was that the one in the Pirelli display between there tyre tent and the garages with the for sale sign on it?

Would be great to see a Corvette there next year.

[peckstar]

would the C6 be well outclassed now though?

[Shane001]

Maybe, the C6 is getting on now, but if it's current GT3 spec it should be up to parity?

[carbsmith]

Car has no problem keeping up with a decent BoP, they still win in ADAC GT and ran competitively at Baku. There's always more performance in it if they're allowed to open it up.

Being an obsolete car without a major manufacturer behind it they suffer with BoP lobbying and getting the most out of customer cars though.

[JDM1980]

Originally Posted by Shane001

Was that the one in the Pirelli display between there tyre tent and the garages with the for sale sign on it?

Would be great to see a Corvette there next year.

I'd say so... If it had a black wrap with Corvette racing emblem in yellow on the bonnet then that would be it... Trofeo picked car up in 2012 for memory and it was 2011 euro champ winning car. Greg Murphy drove it in 2011 spec at Bathurst 12 hr in 2013 and crashed it entering forest elbow. He ran it again at QR in shannons nationals and showed how good the car could be with a gun driver troubling the 2013 spec cars. Winning a race and then coming third for the AGT round(for memory)

Trofeo rebuilt it to 2013 spec and its only been raced once in vic sports car championships late last year.

With a gun driver at the wheel it would be very competitive as they are in Germany.

They'd want good $$$ for it though

[champcarman]

A little lost in the excitement of the race finish was the achievement of the three young guys in the MARC Focus who achieved the Teams aim of beating all the Porsche Cup cars and absolutely outpaced the more experienced (in the cars) guys in the other two MARC cars .

Well done Garry Jacobson, Ben Gersekowski amd adam Gowans.

[TCR]

Originally Posted by jd yort

Only incident was the tool who drove around on Sunday morning beeping the horn.

Our only issue with the campgrounds was the crew right across the road from us that ran their generator until late into the evening