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Somebody asked if the McLaren F1 was going to be like the Ferrari F40, Gordon Murray replied, "I don't think so, there's no one at McLaren who can weld that badly." |
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It reminds me of the quality of the welding on the Porsche 917. Functional, but not something you want to show your welding instructor!
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Fact is, the DWing seemed to have better reliability but not great pace at the Roar. Of course, Muscle Milk wasn't that quick either---in a car they had never seen three weeks ago.
I like the DWing, but based on the numbers that count--lap times and speed--the car isn't back up to par yet. On the other hand at 1:40.508, it isn't That far off the pace--only about Two Seconds slower than the ActEx #5, 12th out of 15 Prototypes--beating Muscle Milk (new car,) Marsh (new car,) and Highway to Help (year-old car, an entry only there to fight Alzheimers and have fun.) I am sure there are some tractor-pull tractors with amazing power/weight ratios too. I doubt a tractor even with 2000 bhp/ton would lap Daytona very quickly. |
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9 Jan 2014, 15:05 (Ref:3352074) | #2610 | ||
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The welds that you are talking about are on the subframe used to lift the car in the paddock/garage.
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HJJ - you seem very familiar with the car. If you watch the video again, at exactly 1:11 he points at a "chin", right in between (and in front) of the vortex generators. If you have seen it in person, can you tell if the chin is completely flat and flush with the underbody of the tub, or does the chin actually sits at an angle, where the front edge is lower than the underbody?
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You're not looking at anything! The front bodywork is not on the car. This area is all enclosed by the bodywork.
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I'm confused by the last question and answer in this interview
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Seems Panoz is designing a couple low-budget passenger cars to produce in partnership with a major manufacturer (which some manufacturers would like, because it lowers corporate average fuel economy) which will give hem access to the internals to eventually build a GT version, which likely would be aimed also at GT racing. That's how I read it.
EDIT: Early in the article it says “Panoz says his radical design could transform more than just America's most prestigious endurance race — it could transform the production car. He met with major automakers here about a partnership for a fuel-efficient sedan or sports car.” Whether he is planning a four-seat DWing or whatever … imagine the patent wars with Nissan then—he is apparently looking to build a low-drag road car with the assistance of some manufacturer (other than Nisssan.) I’d guess that like Nissan’s road-going trike-car concept, the Panoz version would be odd-looking and awkward for driver-passenger socializing (great to make a date sit in the back seat, eh?) and claim to be more efficient with its skinny front wheels—and if licensed to a Detroit manufacturer, would use styling cues from other cars by that manufacturer. Panoz would get his cut for the basic idea, and the car would sell as much on novelty as practicality. That’s what it sounds like to me. Then, I guess, he would build a DWing GT … who knows? Let’s see what the courts say. Last edited by Maelochs; 18 Jan 2014 at 19:44. |
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120 MPG (diesel) with two across seating. Available now. Tandem seating would provide the ultimate mileage, but it's still possible to do a lot better than most cars on the road now with two across. |
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According to Wiki, the Messerschmitt KR200 achieved 87 MPG with tandem seating and 1950's powertrain technology.
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Here is some video of the DeltaWing I shot at Petit, hope it makes some of you forget the snow, enjoy!
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It is worth noting that IMSA has released BOP figures for the Deltawing and they are slightly different than those published on the team's own website:-
http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...20%2314-24.pdf
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And now www.sportscar365.com are reporting a further fuel capacity increase, just before the start of Daytona:-
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It is a little while now since Daytona... but I've done a little bit of analysis:-
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Serious question, when was the last time this car finished a race? And when it did finish, how many laps (time) was it down? It seems like a wasted effort if every race it fails to finish. Imo, Panoz should just invest in a regular DP car engine package.
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