Official Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2021: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Final Round - Page 11

**Adam43** · 12 Dec 2021, 15:01 (Ref:4088657)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greem

Whether you like the result or not, that's one of the best seasons Formula 1 has ever had.

Bringing it down to the final lap of the final race of the season. Almost unbelievable.

Personally I didn’t like the season. Whatever happened.

The *****ing (teams, drivers and mostly the fans) made it practically intolerable. Although this could be more social media. The inability of people to be able to be consistent in their thoughts or buck an alternative view really shows people up to what they really are. And then there are the insults.

bathurst77 · 12 Dec 2021, 15:03 (Ref:4088661)

if any other driver had of been in that merc max would have sewn it up weeks ago
if any other driver had of been in that RedBull Lewis would have sewn it up weeks ago

Anyopenroad · 12 Dec 2021, 15:03 (Ref:4088662)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

Personally I didn’t like the season. Whatever happened.

The *****ing (teams, drivers and mostly the fans) made it practically intolerable. Although this could be more social media. The inability of people to be able to be consistent in their thoughts or buck an alternative view really shows people up to what they really are. And then there are the insults.

Knowlesy · 12 Dec 2021, 15:04 (Ref:4088663)

I don't think you can really complain about Max being champ by the way. His stats for the year have been fantastic and 99% of the time he has been top notch with his driving.

Just... argh. I don't like the direction it has taken. That felt like a made for TV special at the end there and I am not sure I will be back for more next season to be honest.

**Adam43** · 12 Dec 2021, 15:05 (Ref:4088665)

Whoever won it deserved it. I agree.

Anyopenroad · 12 Dec 2021, 15:05 (Ref:4088667)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

I don't think you can really complain about Max being champ by the way. His stats for the year have been fantastic and 99% of the time he has been top notch with his driving.

Just... argh. I don't like the direction it has taken. That felt like a made for TV special at the end there and I am not sure I will be back for more next season to be honest.

Greem · 12 Dec 2021, 15:06 (Ref:4088670)

Notably I didn't say I liked it (race or season) but it's undoubtedly been one of the best ever.

The moaning and whining? Wall to wall TV and media coverage brought that about. Despite F1 being behind a paywall most of the time, the social media people in the teams have given us far more information - much of it completely unnecessary IMO! - than we've ever had.

Yet... I do have a sense of a series disappearing up its own behind. I love it and I don't at the same time.

I do wonder if we'll be seeing some changes in race control as a result of certain goings-on though.

justracing · 12 Dec 2021, 15:07 (Ref:4088674)

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Originally Posted by Paulaweybridge

I’m disgusted, Formula One is a total farce and never seen such a contrived end to a race.

In my view the race director made the right call to finish with a race rather than finish under a safety car, as soon as the circuit was clear he pushed the button.

ascarracinguk · 12 Dec 2021, 15:07 (Ref:4088675)

At the end of the day Max could only drive with the cards he was dealt….he did a great job all year and lucked in.

I don’t like the way the sport is heading however, a 1 lap dash just for the show? Not right in my eyes….

gert · 12 Dec 2021, 15:08 (Ref:4088677)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

I don't think you can really complain about Max being champ by the way. His stats for the year have been fantastic and 99% of the time he has been top notch with his driving.

Just... argh. I don't like the direction it has taken. That felt like a made for TV special at the end there and I am not sure I will be back for more next season to be honest.

Yeah, that.

I am not complaining about either driver being world championship or winning today.

Just the way Race Control brought it to an end was a total disgrace.
But looking back, the way they did it was typical for the bad way they conducted this season.

Time for Michael Masi to pack his backs.
It they need someone to do a bad job they might as well hire me. I'll do it for much less money, too, probably.

Lancsbreaker · 12 Dec 2021, 15:08 (Ref:4088678)

It just feels wrong when the car that has been generally fastest throughout the race loses out in an artificially manipulated way.......

**Adam43** · 12 Dec 2021, 15:09 (Ref:4088681)

It is a shame as we’ve got some unbelievable talent on display.

Those top two and Norris, Leclerc (awful last race) and Sainz, to name three are also great to watch.

But the standard of racing at the pointy end hasn’t been pretty to watch. And the rest, well I’ve said enough on that over the last half of the season.

bathurst77 · 12 Dec 2021, 15:09 (Ref:4088682)

Well I accused Masi of bending the rules for lewis on the first lap
now others are accusing him of bending the rules for max on t he last lap
so..... on balance?

Thing is it comes down to tactics, that wouldnt have happend if RB and max hadnt have been able to keep maxs slower car in such a position that he could pounce if something happened .. and it did and they Max kept his cool and grabbed it...cleanly

I think in retrospect Toto might want to rethink his strategies of not pitting lewis during SC> even if lewis had of dropped back to 2nd or 3rd, he would have had the pace to regain on new tyres. In the end that let max put new reds on at the end and nail him

Somehow I dont think Lewis will be inviting Latifi round for xmas drinks
Ironic that it was a merc powered car that cost lewis his championship

oh well
That was great fun
cant wait to see the new cars in THREE MONTHS....waaaah too long

dcp2685 · 12 Dec 2021, 15:09 (Ref:4088683)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greem

Whether you like the result or not, that's one of the best seasons Formula 1 has ever had.

Bringing it down to the final lap of the final race of the season. Almost unbelievable.

Balls to the wall through and through.

Wow. Just Wow.

gert · 12 Dec 2021, 15:10 (Ref:4088684)

Just a thought: why didn't they red flag the thing, clean up the mess an restart from there if they were so desparate to have a x-lap sprint to the end.

That's been done before, no?

ascarracinguk · 12 Dec 2021, 15:11 (Ref:4088686)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gert

Yeah, that.

I am not complaining about either driver being world championship or winning today.

Just the way Race Control brought it to an end was a total disgrace.
But looking back, the way they did it was typical for the bad way they conducted this season.

Time for Michael Masi to pack his backs.
It they need someone to do a bad job they might as well hire me. I'll do it for much less money, too, probably.

This.

Sodemo · 12 Dec 2021, 15:12 (Ref:4088687)

The biggest shame is that a driver with appalling track manners is now world champion. That sends the wrong message to people IMO.

steve_r · 12 Dec 2021, 15:12 (Ref:4088688)

It's a shame that the end was not without controversy. I'm still trying to digest exactly what happened at the end there.

Knowlesy · 12 Dec 2021, 15:12 (Ref:4088689)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

It is a shame as we’ve got some unbelievable talent on display.

Those top two and Norris, Leclerc (awful last race) and Sainz, to name three are also great to watch.

But the standard of racing at the pointy end hasn’t been pretty to watch. And the rest, well I’ve said enough on that over the last half of the season.

A great crop of talent and good guys as well. F1 should be heading into its glory years even without Lewis, without Max.

Greem nails it... love it and hate it at the same time. But maybe it was always so.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 12 Dec 2021, 15:13 (Ref:4088690)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam43

Personally I didn’t like the season. Whatever happened.

The *****ing (teams, drivers and mostly the fans) made it practically intolerable. Although this could be more social media. The inability of people to be able to be consistent in their thoughts or buck an alternative view really shows people up to what they really are. And then there are the insults.

It's more social media but I've noticed how that has started to pervade threads here on TenTenths, particularly this season. And then there are the insults, which are totally unnecessary and only highlight the ineptitude of those who resort to use them.

**Adam43** · 12 Dec 2021, 15:13 (Ref:4088691)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

It's more social media but I've noticed how that has started to pervade threads here on TenTenths, particularly this season. And then there are the insults, which are totally unnecessary and only highlight the ineptitude of those who resort to use them.

Anyopenroad · 12 Dec 2021, 15:14 (Ref:4088692)

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Originally Posted by bathurst77

Well I accused Masi of bending the rules for lewis on lap 1 now others are accusing him of bending the rules for max
so..... on balance?

That's a bit like saying that because a football ref sent off three players from each side he proved he was unbiased. I'd say it just meant he lost control. Masi's decisions this year were basically a lottery. I'll be really surprised if he's still in place next season.

crmalcolm · 12 Dec 2021, 15:26 (Ref:4088700)

I suspect the general media will become familiar with Article 39.12 very soon....

**Born Racer** · 12 Dec 2021, 15:26 (Ref:4088702)

Can we explain what was going on?

Article 39.12:

If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all teams via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.

crmalcolm · 12 Dec 2021, 15:29 (Ref:4088704)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Born Racer

Can we explain what was going on?

Article 39.12:

If the clerk of the course considers it safe to do so, and the message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all teams via the official messaging system, any cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.

To clarify, the message is now to all 'competitors'. And - " Unless the clerk of the course considers the presence of the safety car is still necessary, once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap."

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