[V8SC09R19&20] V8Supercar Challenge - Nikon SuperGP 600, Gold Coast Qld

[GTRMagic]

In the paper already...

[retro]

[retro]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

In the paper already...

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Stewards are likely, however, to investigate an incident between Whincup and Holden driver Jason Bargwanna, who secured his second career pole for today's first race earlier in the day, which could potentially cost the TeamVodafone ace some points if he's found guilty of any wrongdoing.

"Jamie's obviously on some sort of mission to wreck everyone's day out there,'' Bargwanna told the Seven network.

"That was just out of control

[Pro Racer]

that was ****ed up at the start.

great job by David Reynolds shame about the failure.

[GTRMagic]

Have PCR used up their engine stock for the season?

[Pro Racer]

the way PCR are going and the way Sprint Gas are going i think they are better off using the Sprint Gas Holdens.

[Armco Bender]

I couldn't get over the dodgy pit exit,only luck there wasn't a major coming together there.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Pro Racer

the way PCR are going and the way Sprint Gas are going i think they are better off using the Sprint Gas Holdens.

Release on VESA regarding PCR

[ForumNick]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

In the paper already...

More correctly: 'In the Telegraph already...' ie. In the ON-LINE VERSION already!

But not necessarily in the 'paper' version yet!

[retro]

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UPDATE 7: FINAL 1800hrs Sunday 25th October 2009

Matters arising from Race 20 - Leg 2:

The Stewards imposed a PLP on Car #888 Craig Lowndes for a driving infringement on Car #39 Russell Ingall.

[STEALTHY]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Bargwanna is having a laugh if he thinks there was anything out of control with Whincups move. If we are going to critisize that kind of manouvre no one is going to be overtaking anyone.

I was sure the rule was explained you have to execute the move safely. Bargs gave him plenty of room and whincup still hit him into the wall.....

If that move is perfectly fine, i sure hope #3 and #51 offer some payback when the title is down to the wire at the last race

[retro]

[retro]

[Toads]

Originally Posted by retro

One of my favourite corners. This corner catches many out, because as they turn into Breaker street, there's a little rise that unsettles the cars. It why quite often you see the back ends step out. Most don't try to overtake as they learn quickly that it's a corner that can bite.

But every now 'n again you get a cocky one like JW here, trying the lunge up the inside. And more often than not, someone comes off second best. In this case Bargs had the honour. In all the time this event has happened, the only one who mastered such a move and got away with it. Was Nigel Mansell in the Newman-Haas Lola in 1993. Since then, that type of manouver on that corner has usually ended in tears.

EDIT: Mansell Manouver at 5 minute 55 second mark

[Chris - Melb]

I thought there was a regulation this year that stipulate the overall number of people that could work on each car during the weekend?

According to Channel 7, people from other teams were assisting 888 to get Whincup back on track, plus this report says 4 members of the Logan Smash repair team assisted too: http://www.v8supercars.com.au/conten...9/fever_pitch/

I would have thought that would have put them over the limit?

[STEALTHY]

Originally Posted by Chris - Melb

I thought there was a regulation this year that stipulate the overall number of people that could work on each car during the weekend?

According to Channel 7, people from other teams were assisting 888 to get Whincup back on track, plus this report says 4 members of the Logan Smash repair team assisted too: http://www.v8supercars.com.au/conten...9/fever_pitch/

I would have thought that would have put them over the limit?

Do you know the exact wording? Cause it could stipulate 'team members' meaning people employed by that team. Therefore others are free to join (unless your thinking of the rule which only applies to pit lane? That was in the garage....)

[Toads]

I thought I heard that they said they had dropped that ruling for this round since the change to the 4 x 150km schedule. Due to the minimal turn around times inbetween races.

[retro]

Originally Posted by Toads

One of my favourite corners. This corner catches many out, because as they turn into Breaker street, there's a little rise that unsettles the cars. It why quite often you see the back ends step out. Most don't try to overtake as they learn quickly that it's a corner that can bite.

But every now 'n again you get a cocky one like JW here, trying the lunge up the inside. And more often than not, someone comes off second best. In this case Bargs had the honour. In all the time this event has happened, the only one who mastered such a move and got away with it. Was Nigel Mansell in the Newman-Haas Lola in 1993. Since then, that type of manouver on that corner has usually ended in tears.

EDIT: Mansell Manouver at 5 minute 55 second mark

Is that it...

[Toads]

Yup retro, Well, it wasn't really tidy, lol. But he did manage to get away with it. I was standing on that corner when he went for it. It doesn't look like much on tele, but it definately was a crowd pleaser in the vicinity, when Mansell pulled it off.

[sizzle]

Retro where do you find the stewards reports?

[GoLowndes]

I thought there was a regulation this year that stipulate the overall number of people that could work on each car during the weekend?

Crompton mentioned during the telecast that this rule had been relaxed for the weekend given the extra races & short turn around if the cars did get damaged.

[flying finn]

from the supplementary regulations > http://www.v8supercars.com.au/conten...ies_supp_regs/ > and then SuperGP, Oct 22-25

9 PERSONNEL LIMITS
For this Meeting only, delete Sporting Rule D25 and replace with the following
9.1 There is no restriction on the number of personnel allowed to work on a Race Vehicle during this
Meeting.

[RotorFan]

Originally Posted by STEALTHY

I was sure the rule was explained you have to execute the move safely. Bargs gave him plenty of room and whincup still hit him into the wall.....

If that move is perfectly fine, i sure hope #3 and #51 offer some payback when the title is down to the wire at the last race

Agreed. Whincup should be penalised.

[Axeman444]

Rubbish. Bargs didn't give him any room whatsoever, despite what he says. And the nose of the Hogster was at the A pillar, which last time i looked, is forward of the B Pillar. If Whincup was to be penalised then so should everyone that ran down the right hand side and squeezed someone else on the left through turns 1 and 2 over the weekend

Quote of the weekend, Skaife on J. Richards' issue at turn 5 "there's the problem, he has a wheel alignment issue" referring to his broken steering. classic.

Close runner up has to be Bright's Twitter with thanks to Retro:
"8th place. Love to say it was me and i passed 12 cars but to be honest 90 percent of them fell off"

[Toads]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

Rubbish. Bargs didn't give him any room whatsoever, despite what he says. And the nose of the Hogster was at the A pillar, which last time i looked, is forward of the B Pillar. If Whincup was to be penalised then so should everyone that ran down the right hand side and squeezed someone else on the left through turns 1 and 2 over the weekend

It's quite evident you have no clue to what you're rambling on about. That corner in particular, is quite possibly the worst on the circuit. It's a single file corner. Any goose that thinks they're going to stick up in inside and drive it out of the of the corner, on exit. Without excuting the pass, before the corner is going to see someone stuck into the wall on the outside of the turn. No matter how good their skill level is or how good their intentions were.