March 722 - 732 - 742 - 752 - Page 13

driftwood · 12 Jul 2007, 14:59 (Ref:1961649)

25 cars built on a new wide tub design

allenbrown · 12 Jul 2007, 15:44 (Ref:1961699)

I have done a list but it's a bit of a mess at the moment. I'll push it up as soon as I get past these 1957 F2s that are bothering me at the moment.

Steve Wilkinson · 11 Aug 2007, 10:26 (Ref:1985980)

In 1977 Ted Williams was running a March 752 in speed events; this became a 752/772 in 1978 - anyone any idea what this car started life as?

For 1979 Ken Ayers ran a March 752/76B in speed events; again anyone got a clue what this was?

And Finally in 1981 Richard Ames was using a March 752/782 again in speed events; could anyone ID this chassis?

allenbrown · 11 Aug 2007, 12:52 (Ref:1986027)

Didn't Ted ID his 752 when someone interviewed him for us? I'm still confused about the exact histories of the 752/772 and its successor, the 772/782.

I have no ID on the Ayers car.

Ames' car was the Williams car. I thought you told me that

driftwood · 11 Aug 2007, 21:39 (Ref:1986395)

cant see 772 car making 782 except for fitting body panels tubs are totatly different
772 is wide tub 772P is narrow
782 has pressed front panel

allenbrown · 12 Aug 2007, 10:28 (Ref:1986573)

Yes Drifty, we know. We've been through this exact discussion before.

driftwood · 12 Aug 2007, 10:30 (Ref:1986575)

I know but why do people keep asking about 752 or 772 cars as 782 its not possible
the car HAD to be 752 or a 772 car at best it had 782 nosecone poss cockpit section and rear wing i think fitting the pods will be a few hours work!

Steve Wilkinson · 13 Aug 2007, 10:56 (Ref:1987425)

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Originally Posted by driftwood

I know but why do people keep asking about 752 or 772 cars as 782 its not possible
the car HAD to be 752 or a 772 car at best it had 782 nosecone poss cockpit section and rear wing i think fitting the pods will be a few hours work!

Correct! But to get a better aeropackage it was probably cheaper than buying a new car!

Speed Eventers make do and mend, or at least they did in the 80s. Hence the 752/782 etc.

driftwood · 13 Aug 2007, 11:04 (Ref:1987434)

yes im sure with 1 hacksaw glass fibre kit u can cut n shut
i doubt aero was superior however a man with a 752 can have a "new" car with 782 bodywork!
new cars are meant to be better with new chassis suspension as well as aero package ( ask Honda f1 !! )

im sure the "opposition" where out psyched by the "new" car coming out that year

Dan Rear · 13 Aug 2007, 12:06 (Ref:1987479)

Wasn't the Williams 772 ex-Zunino?

allenbrown · 13 Aug 2007, 12:58 (Ref:1987522)

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

yes im sure with 1 hacksaw glass fibre kit u can cut n shut
i doubt aero was superior however a man with a 752 can have a "new" car with 782 bodywork!
new cars are meant to be better with new chassis suspension as well as aero package ( ask Honda f1 !! )

im sure the "opposition" where out psyched by the "new" car coming out that year

Motoring News 13 Dec 1979 p13, quoting Ted Williams "The car was exactly the same as last year except we rebodied it".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

Wasn't the Williams 772 ex-Zunino?

That's what we thought. I think it came from David McKinney but it wasn't what Ted Williams said when someone asked him.

driftwood · 13 Aug 2007, 13:15 (Ref:1987530)

Motoring News 13 Dec 1979 p13, quoting Ted Williams "The car was exactly the same as last year except we rebodied it".
I rest my case your Honour

allenbrown · 13 Aug 2007, 13:27 (Ref:1987535)

Really! Do you promise?

driftwood · 13 Aug 2007, 13:36 (Ref:1987540)

Until the next contentious but obvious question/solution!

Steve Wilkinson · 14 Aug 2007, 08:59 (Ref:1988155)

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Originally Posted by driftwood

Until the next contentious but obvious question/solution!

I knew it was too good to last!

driftwood · 14 Aug 2007, 09:47 (Ref:1988208)

If it was easy Girls could do it and we could all stand back and watch

cheeky · 28 Sep 2007, 22:37 (Ref:2025419)

copy of post from vx220.org.uk where Ian Douglass was an active member up until last year when cancer returned...

Quote:

It is with deep regret that I must inform everyone here that Ian Douglass (known as Cyberman here) passed away on September 13th.

Those of us who knew Ian (either in person or via the site) will have known him as being a keen VX220 owner and was always willing to share his experience and knowledge on tuning the car.

I'm sure everyone will join me in wishing our best for his family at this difficult time.

Should anyone wish to send flowers, his wife, Elizabeth, as requested donations instead to McMillans Nurses

http://www.vx220.org.uk/forums/index...pic=57213&st=0

**John Turner** · 4 Oct 2007, 16:33 (Ref:2031051)

Very sad news. If anyone wishes to pay tributes here, they may do so, but I will, of course, move this to the Tributes forum in due course

RIP, Ian.

Chris Townsend · 25 Oct 2007, 23:02 (Ref:2051578)

Just come off the phone to James King and he owns the ex Friswell/Barton 732-3. He bought it as a roller in the UK in the early 90s off an Autosport ad.

Chris

246tasman · 27 Oct 2007, 10:30 (Ref:2052565)

I've just bought a car in the States.
It is 732/7 ex works (J Coulon), later converted to 73B-1 for Stephen Choularton and raced by him and then Jim Crawford.
I've copied a couple of interesting documents that came in the history file which appear to clear up some of the questions raised in earlier posts in this thread.
The 'Grand Prix de Rome' entry slip confirms that Coulon was entered in 732/7.
The letter from March confirms they converted this car to 73B-1 and that this had to be kept secret!
The car is beautifully restored with a fresh BDG and should be seen out next season.

allenbrown · 27 Oct 2007, 11:16 (Ref:2052579)

Fascinating! This must be the car that we've recorded as 'SDC1' on OldRacingCars.com as we bought into the story that Choularton had built it up from spares.

So where did it go after Choularton?

246tasman · 27 Oct 2007, 14:00 (Ref:2052666)

All I have after that is what's written on the FIA papers:
'Roger Hurst bought in job lot of spares from March factory 1993
Anthony Hansford 1994.'

Bob Machinist (USA) then bought it around mid 1999 from UK.
I have race reports for just three races (2000-2) and invoices for the period to 1999-2004 of over $165000(!!).

It has a fresh (dyno-time only) MWE built engine.

Davhut · 27 Oct 2007, 14:28 (Ref:2052677)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Townsend

Just come off the phone to James King and he owns the ex Friswell/Barton 732-3. He bought it as a roller in the UK in the early 90s off an Autosport ad.
Chris

Here's a picture of that particular car driven at Road America 2 years ago...

driftwood · 27 Oct 2007, 21:32 (Ref:2052896)

the Coulon car being 732 then converted to 73b#1 is NO secret ive known that for since 1999 and i have reported it here many pages ago
car was restored by Tony Hansford sold to usa was for sale with Vintage racing servicesTony rebuilt it as 73B1 as he could not afford BMW to make the car F2 so he ran the 1600 bda in the car

i dont think the foto is of the car
Hansford has it in coulon STP livery and tee car was still sporting those colours when i saw the car at BRICS in 02 or 03

Davhut · 28 Oct 2007, 03:55 (Ref:2053009)

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftwood

i dont think the foto is of the car

The photo I submitted was of the car discussed by Chris here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Townsend

Just come off the phone to James King and he owns the ex Friswell/Barton 732-3. He bought it as a roller in the UK in the early 90s off an Autosport ad.
Chris

I saw the thing last weekend.

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