Grand-Am Rnd 1: Rolex 24 24-27 Jan 2008 - Page 13

ss_collins · 27 Jan 2008, 17:25 (Ref:2114823)

I think the point being made was that european racecars have a lot more carbon in them than these climbing frame wannabe prototypes

AU N EGL · 27 Jan 2008, 17:44 (Ref:2114834)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss_collins

I think the point being made was that european racecars have a lot more carbon in them than these climbing frame wannabe prototypes

No offence . .

wannabe prtotypes ???

Let see . . .

Chassises:
Riley
Crawford
Doran --> Delora
Lola
Fabcar
Chase ( new Lola ??)

Engines:
Pontiac ( Katech & CRD & other builders)
Ford ( Roush Yates )
Porsche V8s ( ?? Builder)
BMW ( Dinnen )
Lexus ( TRD )

6 chassis, 5 different engine branding with 8+ engine builders.

Think they are past the wanna be stage.

Would be great if these builders cars could be AC0 / FIA P2 chassis too. NOW that would be a way to keep costs down for small teams racing in the ALMS, LM, and FIA races, use these chassises and engine builders.

strider · 27 Jan 2008, 17:52 (Ref:2114843)

A Mazda winning the GT class ?!?

It doesn't look remotely like any RX-8 that I have seen.

Re Eurosport, why so many ad breaks, or, if they must have them, why not take them when there is a caution period.

Justin Moran · 27 Jan 2008, 17:55 (Ref:2114847)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

A Mazda winning the GT class ?!?

It doesn't look remotely like any RX-8 that I have seen.

Re Eurosport, why so many ad breaks, or, if they must have them, why not take them when there is a caution period.

They are following the Speed coverage, so when they break so do Eurosport, we in europe are spolit by Motors TV cos they continue coverage when The US goes to Ads!

Knowlesy · 27 Jan 2008, 17:56 (Ref:2114848)

They are taking adverts when Speed take them.

They should do what NASN does for NASCAR and just stay with the pictures whilst the US commentary team is on a commercial break.

Justin Moran · 27 Jan 2008, 17:58 (Ref:2114850)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

No offence . .

wannabe prtotypes ???

Let see . . .

Chassises:
Riley
Crawford
Doran --> Delora
Lola
Fabcar
Chase ( new Lola ??)

Engines:
Pontiac ( Katech & CRD & other builders)
Ford ( Roush Yates )
Porsche V8s ( ?? Builder)
BMW ( Dinnen )
Lexus ( TRD )

6 chassis, 5 different engine branding with 8+ engine builders.

Think they are past the wanna be stage.

Would be great if these builders cars could be AC0 / FIA P2 chassis too. NOW that would be a way to keep costs down for small teams racing in the ALMS, LM, and FIA races, use these chassises and engine builders.

Should that be Dallara ?

Speed-King · 27 Jan 2008, 17:59 (Ref:2114852)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

A Mazda winning the GT class ?!?

It doesn't look remotely like any RX-8 that I have seen.

The Mazdas won GTU all the way through the 80s, so nothing special. And RE the looks: It's a race car!!

Boro · 27 Jan 2008, 18:01 (Ref:2114853)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AU N EGL

No offence . .

Think they are past the wanna be stage.

Would be great if these builders cars could be AC0 / FIA P2 chassis too. NOW that would be a way to keep costs down for small teams racing in the ALMS, LM, and FIA races, use these chassises and engine builders.

But not past the dinosaur age

Cars are still tube framed and the engine isn't a stress member for pete's sakes.

Their laptimes are close to a star mazda. Yah there are a couple of good chassis makers making these cars, but that still doesn't mean these cars are considered top flight sportscars as far as technological advances are concerned.

Go compare the lap times around Miller or Laguna between a P2 vs a DP

gttouring · 27 Jan 2008, 18:01 (Ref:2114855)

never the less the Daytonas are really fun here...
the GT's is a wierd class, everyone likes to class things and these what are they GT2 or GT3? in the rest of the world of sport?
Go Montoya-Franchitti-Pruett!!

Knowlesy · 27 Jan 2008, 18:04 (Ref:2114856)

I must admit, my enjoyment of some good racing in this series is completely destroyed by the tube frames and suchlike. I often wonder why I watch it.

Matt · 27 Jan 2008, 18:06 (Ref:2114859)

Honestly, I can really care less about the technological level of the cars. If it puts on good racing, that's all that matters.

Knowlesy · 27 Jan 2008, 18:07 (Ref:2114860)

Correct.

Justin Moran · 27 Jan 2008, 18:07 (Ref:2114861)

Hell, its fun to have a great 24Hr race with prototypes of any kind at this time of year, just cant wait for the season to start over here in the UK! Really looking forward to VdeV uk and the britcar 24Hr as well as the best British race in France!!!!!

**FIRE** · 27 Jan 2008, 18:08 (Ref:2114863)

With GrandAm DP having so tight technical rules I am suprised the class is almost a Riley single make series.

strider · 27 Jan 2008, 18:10 (Ref:2114864)

Quote:

Originally Posted by C9/89

They are following the Speed coverage, so when they break so do Eurosport, we in europe are spolit by Motors TV cos they continue coverage when The US goes to Ads!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

They are taking adverts when Speed take them.

They should do what NASN does for NASCAR and just stay with the pictures whilst the US commentary team is on a commercial break.

Thanks for the explanation, guys, I understand now.

You're right, staying with the picture would be much better, even if we had to suffer Kirby and Cole.

Justin Moran · 27 Jan 2008, 18:19 (Ref:2114872)

Pirelli are doing some deals at the mo! Control tyre for this series and also for the WRC! Plus who knows how many others? Must be rolling in clover!

Knowlesy · 27 Jan 2008, 18:32 (Ref:2114884)

Two times!

Pruett and Montoya were awesome and the car staggeringly efficient! What a team!

AU N EGL · 27 Jan 2008, 18:34 (Ref:2114886)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boro

Go compare the lap times around Miller or Laguna between a P2 vs a DP

I understand.

Mid Ohio is a good place to compare too.

The new Pirelli tires are 2-3 secs a lap faster then the old Hoosier Grand am tires. Should be closer to P2 times this year.

and yes it is Dallara. IIRC also makes the Audi R8 and R10s under contract with Audi

fish88 · 27 Jan 2008, 18:34 (Ref:2114887)

Yes Awesome Start Of The Season.

Matt · 27 Jan 2008, 18:34 (Ref:2114888)

Mazda wins GT as well. LOVE that rotary SCREAM.

LOL at the crew members helemthawk.

dxk1 · 27 Jan 2008, 18:36 (Ref:2114891)

That Chip Ganassi Team certainly know what they are doing. Congratulations to Montoya, Pruett and Franchitti!! Well done.

DK

**chunterer** · 27 Jan 2008, 18:39 (Ref:2114895)

woo hoo get in there boys!

JPM does it again, with Pruett the anchorman, Dario and Memo. Great team.

JPM's gotta have some pops at La Sarthe now surely. Can Ganassi enter an LMP next year please!!

Knowlesy · 27 Jan 2008, 18:40 (Ref:2114896)

Yeah, kind of put the lie to those who said he'd be useless at endurance racing.

Sadly NASCAR clashes with Le Mans so no chance of that for a while. Maybe one day.

I believe that is four endurance races entered and four class wins now.

Down F0rce · 27 Jan 2008, 18:44 (Ref:2114899)

Another title for Franchitti's ever expanding belt! Maybe add another in a couple of weeks?

Well done to the whole Ganassi 01 team. Faultless performance.

rdjones · 27 Jan 2008, 18:46 (Ref:2114904)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Down F0rce

Another title for Franchitti's ever expanding belt! Maybe add another in a couple of weeks?

As he just said in his post race interview he thinks that might be little bit harder.

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