ALMS/Grand Am Fusion 2014 - Page 131

Breitling24 · 8 Mar 2013, 02:14 (Ref:3215825)

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Originally Posted by ptclaus98

Ehhhh, I don't see Penske doing WEC unless he's getting major sponsor or manufacturer money. Porsche seems to have put in their lot with Manthey, Audi has Joest, Toyota have done their own thing. I figure this is just Roger trying to kick up some dirt and see if a manufacturer takes notice. Maybe Honda.

Porsche have gone with Manthey for the GT programme, but Penske has the experience running the ALMS LMP2 programme, and Porsche are returning to LMP1...

Simmi · 8 Mar 2013, 09:49 (Ref:3215921)

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Originally Posted by Breitling24

Porsche have gone with Manthey for the GT programme, but Penske has the experience running the ALMS LMP2 programme, and Porsche are returning to LMP1...

It's been confirmed that when it comes to the P1 programme, Porsche have put their lot in with Porsche. Full works effort run out of Weissach - the way it should be.

NaBUru38 · 8 Mar 2013, 12:08 (Ref:3215972)

Penske could be very interested in winning Daytona and Sebring, just like Ganassi.

Fogelhund · 8 Mar 2013, 12:22 (Ref:3215986)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

Penske could be very interested in winning Daytona and Sebring, just like Ganassi.

Maybe, but then they specifically said Le Mans multiple times, and Daytona and Sebring not at all. Penske has already won Daytona and Sebring btw....

JLGarcia · 8 Mar 2013, 12:39 (Ref:3215997)

Penske may well want to win LM24 overall, but you'd be a fool to think he'd turn down the right GT manufacturer deal.

porman · 8 Mar 2013, 12:55 (Ref:3216002)

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Originally Posted by JLGarcia

Penske may well want to win LM24 overall, but you'd be a fool to think he'd turn down the right GT manufacturer deal.

Exactly! It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to see him running a 2014 Porsche RSR under the right circumstances. In my jaded world we would see Penske, Flying Lizards, and Falken running a 2014 spec car with a new DFI engine. GT is an extremely tight field and the Captain loves competition.

NaBUru38 · 13 Mar 2013, 12:36 (Ref:3217816)

So, what are your bets on the name of the merged championship?

1. Will Rolex remain as title sponsor?
2. Will they retain Le Mans or Daytona?
3. Will they use Endurance or Sports Car?
4. Will they revive IMSA or Road Racing Championship?
5. Will they use United States, American, North American or no geographical reference?
6. Will they use a superlative like Super, Ultimate or Premium?

flyingmonkey · 13 Mar 2013, 13:16 (Ref:3217827)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

So, what are your bets on the name of the merged championship?

1. Will Rolex remain as title sponsor?
2. Will they retain Le Mans or Daytona?
3. Will they use Endurance or Sports Car?
4. Will they revive IMSA or Road Racing Championship?
5. Will they use United States, American, North American or no geographical reference?
6. Will they use a superlative like Super, Ultimate or Premium?

1. Likely
2. Neither
3. Sports Car
4. RRC
5. American
6. I hope not

MagVanisher · 13 Mar 2013, 13:18 (Ref:3217828)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

6. Will they use a superlative like Super, Ultimate or Premium?

I bet they're crazy enough to put an "ultimate" on their series...

flyingmonkey · 13 Mar 2013, 13:26 (Ref:3217834)

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Originally Posted by Matt

Er, what?

Er...yea, look at it. It would be more interesting to run the oval. Those infield corners might as well be a tasteless chicane on the back straight.....no character at all. But if some like it then I guess.....no...no...no...no, its an abomination. A crime really.

flyingmonkey · 13 Mar 2013, 13:37 (Ref:3217838)

Also, did anyone see this: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...the-bmw-z4-gte

The ALMS is allowing the Z-4 to run a V-8, when the production Z-4 is not offered with a V-8. There goes the GTE championship.

Fogelhund · 13 Mar 2013, 13:44 (Ref:3217842)

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Originally Posted by flyingmonkey

Also, did anyone see this: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...the-bmw-z4-gte

The ALMS is allowing the Z-4 to run a V-8, when the production Z-4 is not offered with a V-8. There goes the GTE championship.

Actually, it is the ACO who homologated this, not the ALMS. It is hard to pin point when exactly the barn door was let open, one could argue the growing list of waivers, or allowing the Viper in despite being 2.5L above the class limit, or.....

**joeb** · 13 Mar 2013, 13:53 (Ref:3217851)

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Originally Posted by flyingmonkey

Also, did anyone see this: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...the-bmw-z4-gte

The ALMS is allowing the Z-4 to run a V-8, when the production Z-4 is not offered with a V-8. There goes the GTE championship.

Yup, that has been discussed in a few different threads around here including partially in these:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...ghlight=future

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...hlight=bmw+gte

Maelochs · 13 Mar 2013, 15:07 (Ref:3217911)

I expect Rolex will stay on as sponsor—might as well get some RoI from the new series after being stuck with the old.

They cannot use “Le Mans without a licensing agreement, and would be foolish to use “Daytona” in the series name. Likewise they’d be foolish to use “U.S.” considering they already race in Canada and might someday look at Mexico.

They could use “Sports Car,” but “Endurance” would be too funny for this humorless lot.

I don’t think “IMSA” or “RRC” have much resonance with modern fans or potential fans.

Considering they are based in the World Center of Racing … I am expecting the “Pan-Galactic All-American Nationwide Sports Car Series”—PaganSport has a nice ring.

962 · 13 Mar 2013, 15:17 (Ref:3217914)

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Originally Posted by flyingmonkey

Er...yea, look at it. It would be more interesting to run the oval. Those infield corners might as well be a tasteless chicane on the back straight.....no character at all. But if some like it then I guess.....no...no...no...no, its an abomination. A crime really.

Having driven the Charlotte road course, i find the infield section in my oppinion has a lot more character than people give it credit for. The speedway section is what it is but Turns 5-6-7 in the infield section are brutal with a crest right at entry of turn 6 that makes setting up for 7 quite difficult.

Pandamasque · 13 Mar 2013, 16:44 (Ref:3217947)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

I expect Rolex will stay on as sponsor—might as well get some RoI from the new series after being stuck with the old.

They cannot use “Le Mans without a licensing agreement, and would be foolish to use “Daytona” in the series name. Likewise they’d be foolish to use “U.S.” considering they already race in Canada and might someday look at Mexico.

They could use “Sports Car,” but “Endurance” would be too funny for this humorless lot.

I don’t think “IMSA” or “RRC” have much resonance with modern fans or potential fans.

Considering they are based in the World Center of Racing … I am expecting the “Pan-Galactic All-American Nationwide Sports Car Series”—PaganSport has a nice ring.

Or, if they stay away from rovals, simply Pan-American-Natural-Terrain-Series (good acronym too).

Purist · 13 Mar 2013, 19:31 (Ref:3218001)

Monkey, I would say that the Charlotte roval is more interesting than some. However, most rovals just aren't terribly interesting anyway. Charlotte specifically has some serious safety issues, both in terms of run-off, as well as surface condition in the infield.

Here's a blast from the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST7-ztfo7Wg

The other roval, apart from Daytona, that piques my interest from time to time is Pocono. The first few corners have since changed (probably for the better), but this should give a decent idea of the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4N50wGWhps

On the whole though, I do think that rovals should be kept to an absoltue minimum in the new series; there are just too many excellent permanent road courses out there to clutter up the calendar with a whole lot else.

Both the Z4 and Viper have ACO homologation, so the ALMS does not bare the greatest responsibility for these. Besides, the Z4 shape seems a better fit for the GT class.

BMWFan56 · 13 Mar 2013, 19:37 (Ref:3218004)

My guess is: United SportsCar Racing.

http://jalopnik.com/is-united-sports...ed-g-453562283

deggis · 13 Mar 2013, 20:29 (Ref:3218022)

Like the simplicity (...Sports Car Racing!) but "United" sounds videogamish.

Breitling24 · 13 Mar 2013, 20:35 (Ref:3218023)

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Originally Posted by BMWFan56

My guess is: United SportsCar Racing.

http://jalopnik.com/is-united-sports...ed-g-453562283

I see over at Brett's site, he's listed the "legal" domain filings, etc. Through, ironically or not, GoDaddy.com, a NASCAR sponsor.

Fogelhund · 13 Mar 2013, 20:36 (Ref:3218024)

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Originally Posted by Breitling24

I see over at Brett's site, he's listed the "legal" domain filings, etc. Through GoDaddy.com, a NASCAR sponsor, ironically, or not.

First place I looked up the domain name.

deggis · 14 Mar 2013, 12:14 (Ref:3218274)

So: http://www.unitedsportscarracing.com

Not the ideal address, so long and mainly the two "R" letters consecutively...

What is going to be acronym? USR? USCR? Notice that in the trademark application it is "SportsCar" and not "Sports Car".

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Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: UNITEDSPORTSCARRACING.COM
Created on: 13-Feb-13
Expires on: 13-Feb-15
Last Updated on: 12-Mar-13

Registrant:
Premium Sports Car, LLC
One Daytona Blvd
Daytona Beach, FL 32114
United States

Administrative Contact:
Car, LLC, Premium Sports ltoth@nascar.com
One Daytona Blvd
Daytona Beach, FL 32114
United States
+1.3863105610

deggis · 14 Mar 2013, 12:23 (Ref:3218277)

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130313/ALMS/130319936

2:30 EDT = http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...S+announcement

NaBUru38 · 14 Mar 2013, 13:29 (Ref:3218300)

USR = U.S. Robots (Isaac Asimov, you know)

At least the website doens't include "Championship" or "Series".

962 · 14 Mar 2013, 13:44 (Ref:3218308)

One question I have is will the sanctioning body still be Grand Am as in Grand Am United Sportscar Racing. Or is USCR going to be the name of the sanctioning body. It doen't bother me if it remains Grand Am it's just something that I have not herd anyone address.

Just to clarify what i'm trying to ask.
Right now we have The Grand Am Rolex Sports Car Series, Grand Am Continental Tire Series.
So will the new series be Grand Am United SportsCar Racing
Or United SportsCar Series Rolex GT, DP etc

I hope that makes sense

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