2016 TCR International Series news & rumours - Page 14

Mark0994 · 19 Jun 2016, 18:27 (Ref:3653550)

Today was day to forget for Japanese cars in Le Mans, TCR and BTCC
They was only good in TCR Germany

Fechna · 20 Jun 2016, 04:19 (Ref:3653731)

Westcoast and Honda shall ask themselves, whether they really want to win the championship. At least 3 cars fully funded with 3 decent drivers are the minimum when facing a pseudo works team of Seat.

thlbtcc · 20 Jun 2016, 09:50 (Ref:3653783)

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Originally Posted by Fechna

Westcoast and Honda shall ask themselves, whether they really want to win the championship. At least 3 cars fully funded with 3 decent drivers are the minimum when facing a pseudo works team of Seat.

If only it was that easy. Lukoil is paying to sponsor all 3 cars, WestCoast do not have such luxury. They are relying on drivers coming with a budget.

Fechna · 20 Jun 2016, 10:36 (Ref:3653793)

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Originally Posted by thlbtcc

If only it was that easy. Lukoil is paying to sponsor all 3 cars, WestCoast do not have such luxury. They are relying on drivers coming with a budget.

Maybe difficult for Westcoast, but easy to pay for Honda. After all they do want the promotion of a title to sell their product...

Bramzel · 20 Jun 2016, 10:59 (Ref:3653801)

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Originally Posted by Fechna

Maybe difficult for Westcoast, but easy to pay for Honda. After all they do want the promotion of a title to sell their product...

The whole problem is that that's forbidden by TCR. It's not a factory championship, its a teams championship.

Racing Harz · 20 Jun 2016, 11:38 (Ref:3653809)

I was yesterday in Oschersleben and i saw many people from "Audi Sport". I tkink Chrois Reincke, was one of them. So, Audi A3 TCR?

Mark0994 · 20 Jun 2016, 11:42 (Ref:3653811)

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Originally Posted by Racing Harz

I was yesterday in Oschersleben and i saw many people from "Audi Sport". I tkink Chrois Reincke, was one of them. So, Audi A3 TCR?

Can be. Commentator on Serbian TV was live at Oschersleben and he said that there will be Audi, Mercedes-Benz and Renault next year on grid. And maybe BMW and Jaguar if TCR change regulations.

Fechna · 21 Jun 2016, 13:02 (Ref:3654147)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

The whole problem is that that's forbidden by TCR. It's not a factory championship, its a teams championship.

I'm sure you can show me the rule in TCR regulations, that regulates the exact way the teams are funded. I'm sure that there is some kind of pecunian help for Bamboo by Seat Sport, let it be cash, testing opportunity, etc. etc. etc. I have no proof for that statement though.

BUT: I just checked the Websites of Craft-Bamboo and B3 Racing. Craft-Bamboo names Seat-Sport as second sponsor after Lukoil (together with Team Dynamics Wheels and others). B3 does NOT (their list btw is also way longer, including Burger King and a dozend others).

This is not proof for anything, but come on...

Bramzel · 21 Jun 2016, 13:21 (Ref:3654153)

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Originally Posted by Fechna

I'm sure you can show me the rule in TCR regulations, that regulates the exact way the teams are funded. I'm sure that there is some kind of pecunian help for Bamboo by Seat Sport, let it be cash, testing opportunity, etc. etc. etc. I have no proof for that statement though.

BUT: I just checked the Websites of Craft-Bamboo and B3 Racing. Craft-Bamboo names Seat-Sport as second sponsor after Lukoil (together with Team Dynamics Wheels and others). B3 does NOT (their list btw is also way longer, including Burger King and a dozend others).

This is not proof for anything, but come on...

True, its like GT3 where the top teams receive additional support from the factory, in the shape of engineers, data and factory drivers. I guess it's the grey area which could be used.

Fechna · 21 Jun 2016, 14:10 (Ref:3654174)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

True, its like GT3 where the top teams receive additional support from the factory, in the shape of engineers, data and factory drivers. I guess it's the grey area which could be used.

Thats also actually my favourite way of racing. Where else can a real privateer like Homola, Grachov, Buri, etc. truly compete against semi works pro drivers like Morbidelli, Oriola, Gene and the likes.

BSchneiderFan · 21 Jun 2016, 14:35 (Ref:3654182)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

Can be. Commentator on Serbian TV was live at Oschersleben and he said that there will be Audi, Mercedes-Benz and Renault next year on grid. And maybe BMW and Jaguar if TCR change regulations.

What model would Jaguar use for TCR?

Matt · 21 Jun 2016, 15:04 (Ref:3654189)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

What model would Jaguar use for TCR?

XE if they allow RWD.

Bramzel · 21 Jun 2016, 15:29 (Ref:3654202)

I don't think TCR is the championship for Jaguar.

Fechna · 21 Jun 2016, 15:49 (Ref:3654212)

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Originally Posted by Matt

XE if they allow RWD.

I'd love it, but that will never happen... I also wonder what an Serbian Anchor is supposed to know that tct isn't. Maybe before daydreaming about fata morganas we should wait for Opel and Kia to arrive and pray for Alfa and Subaru to ever get to decent performance.

BSchneiderFan · 21 Jun 2016, 16:11 (Ref:3654222)

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Originally Posted by Matt

XE if they allow RWD.

The XE is a D-segment car, a class bigger than most of the TCR models.

Mark0994 · 21 Jun 2016, 17:37 (Ref:3654251)

Only XE fit in TCR and it's just little bigger than WRX.
Also is there are rule in any touring class that say car cant be longer than?
I mean someone can use Rolls-Royce Phantom. With stripped of luxury and with 2.0 330hp it will be hilarious

Also look like Target Competition Astra will be back in Sepang
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...urn-in-sepang/

Matt · 21 Jun 2016, 17:48 (Ref:3654254)

XE is the same size as a BMW 3 series...which competed alongside Civic and Leon in S2000 competition.

Mark0994 · 21 Jun 2016, 19:06 (Ref:3654272)

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Originally Posted by Fechna

I'd love it, but that will never happen... I also wonder what an Serbian Anchor is supposed to know that tct isn't. Maybe before daydreaming about fata morganas we should wait for Opel and Kia to arrive and pray for Alfa and Subaru to ever get to decent performance.

He is known for stupid comments about every sport he comments.
But for TCR he is informed by Borkovic press team.

Racing Harz · 22 Jun 2016, 05:04 (Ref:3654355)

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Originally Posted by Fechna

I'd love it, but that will never happen... I also wonder what an Serbian Anchor is supposed to know that tct isn't. Maybe before daydreaming about fata morganas we should wait for Opel and Kia to arrive and pray for Alfa and Subaru to ever get to decent performance.

So in Oschersleben had the Alfa good Speed (Fulin 4th in Practice). They must work on the reliability

Fechna · 22 Jun 2016, 06:37 (Ref:3654368)

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Originally Posted by Racing Harz

So in Oschersleben had the Alfa good Speed (Fulin 4th in Practice). They must work on the reliability

Well, we're talking about Bop, so Fulin should be able to place the car consistently in the top 10 on every track, since he is a fast driver. They are not there yet. I hope he stays on the team, Cerruti alone won't cut it.

pimmy · 22 Jun 2016, 12:47 (Ref:3654424)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

Can be. Commentator on Serbian TV was live at Oschersleben and he said that there will be Audi, Mercedes-Benz and Renault next year on grid. And maybe BMW and Jaguar if TCR change regulations.

It's all very well and good to have new manufacturers joining, but it would be nice if the existing ones actually turned up at some point!

I know the Opels are supposed to be back in time for Sepang but does anyone know when the Fords & Subarus are going to be ready? How's the Kia project going?

Mark0994 · 22 Jun 2016, 15:19 (Ref:3654471)

Subaru will be ready for Russia or Singapore (They now have full Subaru support)
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...ork-continues/
Can't find anything about Ford
And Kia will be ready for next year but their site say coming soon
http://stard.at/

Fechna · 22 Jun 2016, 18:09 (Ref:3654500)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

Subaru will be ready for Russia or Singapore (They now have full Subaru support)

Subaru gave some new parts, but I hardly would call that "full support".

BSchneiderFan · 23 Jun 2016, 12:10 (Ref:3654650)

I still can't quite get my head round circuit racing Subarus. They should be covered in beastly mud and oomska. But the more, the merrier.

Mark0994 · 1 Jul 2016, 09:47 (Ref:3656095)

New drivers for Sochi are:
Ildar Rakhmatullin for WestCoast Racing (same as last year)
Vladimir Sheshenin for Liqui Moly Team Engstler.

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