[LM24] Le Mans 2014

[Flem]

Thats great news to hear he's alright :-)

[Bandicoot17]

Session restating in 10 mins

[airbusA346]

Estimated Session start time: 17:55

[J Jay]

Excellent. Duval is okay, session restarts in 10

[Acid09]

Restart of the session in 10 minutes...I find that surprising, looking at the state of that fence.

[Articus]

10 minutes to session restart

These Audi guys are taking years off Dr. Wolfgang Ullrich

[Coach Ep]

Track is very narrow where it goes over the bridge, so (almost) no room for tires. Maybe the 'bounce back' characteristic of tires also plays a role in that policy (???)

[chernaudi]

Japanese Autosport report seems that Loic banged his foot in the accident, but other than that and some minor cuts and bruises, he's in pretty good shape considering what could've happened.

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by Acid09

Restart of the session in 10 minutes...I find that surprising, looking at the state of that fence.

Without sounding morbid, the course workers have had a lot practice at fixing barriers in recent years.

[Articus]

Hope that not true but better the left foot than the right one...

[rdjones]

Ok, so if Audi can replace with the #1 with a new tub and if they need use Gene where does this leave Jota?

[EricS]

Originally Posted by ederss7

I dont understand why there is a concrete wall there in such a dangerous corner. They should put tyres there, instead of concrete.

The accident occurred at a weird spot, at the start of the corner, not exit.

[bella]

Originally Posted by Beetle

But... what's the difference of someone taking a screenshot of the Eurosport live stream and posting it to a social media outlet and someone watching it on TV and seeing the same image anyway?

It's not like the low-res photos of the Memo Gidley crash at Daytona by several people... this is just tweeting out what everyone else sees. Don't see the problem..

would you do it roadside, as you drive past an accident scene where there was someone still trapped inside the smoking wreckage of a car? it's exactly the same thing.

just because everyone does it it doesn't make it ok. sheep mentality.

[chernaudi]

Might not matter too much, because most drivers now are left foot brakers because of the paddle operated gearboxes and no need to use the clutch/heel-toe (and Audi this year are using a hand clutch like in F1).

Considering that I've seen it take 30 minutes to one hour to fix catch fencing at NASCAR races, I'm a bit surprised that the session will resume soon, unless the fence damage is highly concentrated to one spot.

[gsmith2424]

Originally Posted by rdjones

Ok, so if Audi can replace with the #1 with a new tub and if they need use Gene where does this leave Jota?

I know Gunnar Jeannette is there and is looking for a ride at the last minute. he would make a good replacement if he is needed.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by rdjones

Ok, so if Audi can replace with the #1 with a new tub and if they need use Gene where does this leave Jota?

There are several drivers at the track still looking for a last minute ride. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Alex Kapadia... perhaps he could be a suitable LMP2 replacement?

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by bella

would you do it roadside, as you drive past an accident scene where there was someone still trapped inside the smoking wreckage of a car? it's exactly the same thing.

just because everyone does it it doesn't make it ok. sheep mentality.

No, it's completely different. If you are taking a screenshot of your TV or on your computer of images Eurosport is showing, presuming that's what most people are watching, no one's seeing any morbid images and it's fine. If you are tweeting images not authorized and sent through the Eurosport channel, it's really unprofessional and should be frowned upon. Otherwise, it's just prudish.

And by the way, you are in the vast minority on this one. Not that it really makes a difference, but...

[Articus]

McNish out of retirement?

[EricS]

Dr Ulrich just had an interview on Eurosport and said McNish is at Duval's side at the medical center. They have no data yet on what caused the accident.

[ederss7]

Just because he is conscious and talking doesnt mean he is out of danger. A. Simonsen was conscious after his crash, then he suddenly die.

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by Articus

McNish out of retirement?

That would be absolutely epic!

[bella]

Originally Posted by Beetle

No, it's completely different. If you are taking a screenshot of your TV or on your computer of images Eurosport is showing, presuming that's what most people are watching, no one's seeing any morbid images and it's fine. If you are tweeting images not authorized and sent through the Eurosport channel, it's really unprofessional and should be frowned upon. Otherwise, it's just prudish.

no, it's exactly the same. why do you think live coverage rarely shows a serious shunt again unless it's clear those involved have survived and are largely ok?

i've just tried to explain in words why you should think differently, but can only come up with one suggestion. imagine if it was someone you care a lot about in that car. now come back to me and tell me honestly and truthfully you wouldn't think differently.

[rustyfan]

Perhaps Duval's crash looked something like the one Marc Gene had in 2008 (also in the Porsche Curves), when he was driving the Peugeot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KfdRTQEiyw

[Coach Ep]

Originally Posted by EricS

The accident occurred at a weird spot, at the start of the corner, not exit.

Not really, lots of incidents/accidents there over the last couple of years, probably only a handful being caught on camera. It's the sequence of (medium) fast right-left turns in combination with the narrow track over the bridge, traffic and tires issues (flats, slow punctures, etc.) that cause the problems.

The Audis have been ridiculously fast through the Porsche Curves the last two, three years or so and I can only imagine them being even faster this year. The ACO really should put up a speed trap or some sort of 'mini-time-loop' timing just the PC section to give us all an inside on the huge improvements made there by the factory prototype teams.

[carbon_titanium]

As far I am (or was) aware, Simonses was in desperate conditions and unconscious before to expire because of the crash. Anyway former lmp1 audi drivers, however remain inside audi family; is not so unusual still to see mcnish and capello in audi boxes during WEC races (capello is still an audi work driver in the italian GT)