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Old 21 Nov 2007, 20:57 (Ref:2072815)   #326
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I fear the day we have 20 cars whistling their way around a track.

Even watching the SEAT's on TV you can hear the tyres over the engine. Thats just not right.
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Old 21 Nov 2007, 21:16 (Ref:2072836)   #327
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But I can't see it being impossible to make a diesel engine sound loud...
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Old 21 Nov 2007, 21:17 (Ref:2072837)   #328
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I fear the day we have 20 cars whistling their way around a track.

Even watching the SEAT's on TV you can hear the tyres over the engine. Thats just not right.
Yep but what do we prefer, diesel powered cars or no cars? Manufacturers are racing because of business reasons not because it's fun.
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Old 21 Nov 2007, 21:24 (Ref:2072851)   #329
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Sound is overrated. I go to the track to see cars battling each other, not to shut my eyes and just listen to the sound. The sound is merely a bonus.
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Old 21 Nov 2007, 21:45 (Ref:2072878)   #330
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But still somehow watching electric cars race each other is not exciting.
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Old 21 Nov 2007, 23:33 (Ref:2072991)   #331
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Alex K has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Would be, if they're on 250+ BHP and great racing.
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 09:03 (Ref:2073237)   #332
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Just read on sportmotores.com that CiBiEmme may enter two Chevies in the indy cup next year
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 11:09 (Ref:2073416)   #333
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This is really bad news for the racing fans...

I think, the sound is one of the reasons, to go to live racing at a track. You can see the action better on TV...
Maybe I'm a diesel-hater, as they sound lousy also in streetcars.
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 11:47 (Ref:2073442)   #334
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The sound of S2000 touring cars was never something to get exited about. They could drive electric cars, it wouldn't make a difference. Sportscars on the other hand is a different matter.
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 13:35 (Ref:2073509)   #335
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Zolder could replace Anderstorp:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=1653
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 13:41 (Ref:2073521)   #336
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can't teams use any other cars apart from Chevy, SEAt and BMWs just so we can have some variety. i'm sure there's some spare vauxhall or honda's about
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 13:47 (Ref:2073525)   #337
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Not FIA homologated though. I imagine it'd be something VXR would look at doing, but it's pretty pricey is it not ?
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 14:34 (Ref:2073552)   #338
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Not FIA homologated though. I imagine it'd be something VXR would look at doing, but it's pretty pricey is it not ?
Maybe it has some cost but doesn't anyone envy the sucess of BMW's customer program? OPC obviously should have the capacity to do it.
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 14:40 (Ref:2073556)   #339
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We had Ford Focus and Toyota Corrolla last year or in 2005. There was a Volvo this year. What they need is just an official backing to be compettitive.


For Zolder, good news, i'll be able to watch a race. I couldn't see the WTCC since they left the Spa24h week-end.
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 17:26 (Ref:2073658)   #340
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Can they use the Mazda 6 in WTCC?

A damn good car and the overall winner in Speed World Challenge Touring Car series this past season. Mixes well against the Bimmers, Audis, and Hondas.

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Old 22 Nov 2007, 17:51 (Ref:2073674)   #341
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Zolder could replace Anderstorp:

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=1653
Zolder would be a great place for the WTCC. Not too big like some of the F1 circuits and plently of great corners and braking areas. Should no doubt bring lots of action. Bring it on!
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 18:11 (Ref:2073685)   #342
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I surely hope it'll come next to Anderstorp instead of replacing it. I can only welcome Zolder though: one of my favourite tracks and action guaranteed!
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Old 22 Nov 2007, 18:16 (Ref:2073687)   #343
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Can they use the Mazda 6 in WTCC?

A damn good car and the overall winner in Speed World Challenge Touring Car series this past season. Mixes well against the Bimmers, Audis, and Hondas.

I don't know about the 6, but there has been talk of a Mazda 3 in the BTCC.
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 08:34 (Ref:2074009)   #344
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I hope, we'll see Aderstorp next year. This year we have seen one of the most interesting round there, and i think, next year round will be the same.
Long straght and banking corners provide very interesting and close race, plus rain weather
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 11:03 (Ref:2074074)   #345
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I read some interesting things in the german magazine "motorsport aktuell" yesterday:

1. N-Tech will buy some JAS Honda Accords and will enter them with full
Honda Europe backing.


2. The Diesel-Engine from Seat isn´t nearly a real S2000- engine, because there are lots of parts composed together in it, that you can´t find in any road version.
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 13:35 (Ref:2074155)   #346
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2. The Diesel-Engine from Seat isn´t nearly a real S2000- engine, because there are lots of parts composed together in it, that you can´t find in any road version.
So? The petrol S2000 engines also use a lot of special parts...
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 14:22 (Ref:2074190)   #347
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Maybe, but the article suggests, that the FIA gave much more freedom to SEAT for the diesel engine then to the petrol engines. They clearly stated, that the SEAT enigine is not a clearly S2000d as writen in the rules.
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 15:42 (Ref:2074234)   #348
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Surely one of the biggest issues is that they can use unlimited turbo boost!
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 16:10 (Ref:2074258)   #349
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The FIA were helping SEAT every way they could to get this years championship. Frankly im amazed that BMW didn't have a showbiz strop halfway through the season regarding all the technical breaks given to other makes.
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Old 23 Nov 2007, 16:26 (Ref:2074270)   #350
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I really don't understand the WTCC. What's the point in having S2000 and S2000D rules (or technical regulations at all!) if there's not a single (works) car in the series that's made according to the rules and regulations... And after giving all that freedom to do your car S2000'ish in the way you like and getting it approved by just whining a bit, FIA then changes minimum weights by some kind of random factor for each race.
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