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And then when it gets it's fake body ripped off and is shipped to Le Mans, even with the non-spec engine, it magically transforms into LMP2, right...
It's no different to GT3 being called GTD or whatever. Anyway, HPD (or "Acura" if the branding indeed changes again) might still get their will through and have cars only running the engines under the ACO spec chassis, without the body. 04 is obviously dead meat but it could still happen with the new spec cars, if they can lobby it right. And especially if others agree and no-one except GM ultimately buys into the bodywork business, just like now in DP. |
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Replace Ligier badge with Acura one. Rehomologate. Worked for Alpine.
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Though I must say (even though as principal I despise rebadging), Acura could actually have chances of succeeding in the name change, unlike with Honda which is definite no no because of the major manufacturer title linkup. Anyway the MSR "Ligier" (=Onroak) is already referred to as "Honda Prototype" in the States, it would only need ("need") rebading for LM |
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just bring the ESM and MSR HPD ligier, change front lights, put honda badge on nose and you get the HPD DPi. Very likely this is what is going to happen. Anyway I don't know how much the cosworth/nissan V6 can be fitted in the rear of a car. |
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anyway, if nissan will field a DPi, surely will be picked the updated gt-r v6 3.8 TT that powers the renault rs01. Destroked to 3.5 maybe, if the max displacement will remain the actual one. |
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As with HPD, I bet "Mazda" too would love to just run the generic spec chassis with their own engine if were they allowed to, and not to bother with the rule built for GM.
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I think if there was an actual gain (allowed) in the brand bodywork, these guys would be all over it for next year. But alas, "DPi" continues the trend of dumified, near spec, everyone has to be equal rules. I think hpd should look to customers in privateer lmp1. I'd like to see the 04 try their hand with an upgraded 3.5L hpd made for the wec/LM.
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I think that's false, at least for the future. AER has both Rebellion and Kolles. Strakka have history in the class (most recent exit) and shown interest in rejoining. Not to mention they ran hpd last time out. Vincent Beaumesnil was pretty confident on the class's increase in this interview. He mentions 3 teams and we know there's interest from Courage (hpd link there also).
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10 Mar 2016, 09:22 (Ref:3621802) | #3638 | |
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Indeed, the only reason to have bodywork is for "brand recognization" as IMSA will bop everything in wind tunnel. It's just dead matter on top of the real car.
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Beaumesnil can say whatever he likes, and he's obviously gonna talk up the class. But any of us can see the truth - Privateer P1 is a waste of time and money and nobody sane is going to spend the money involved to have Porsche, Audi and Toyota demolish them. Which means unless HPD is gonna poach Rebellion or Kolles, them in P1 is not gonna happen unless they wanna go spend €50 million or more on it, which we know isn't gonna happen. It's dead, and the ACO's truly-idiotic decision to go with psuedo-spec LMP2s means for Honda its DPi, a hybrid GTE car or nothing. Be glad they are trying for a a DPi. |
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Your points have already been counter-argumented here
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146384 |
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Given how developed the aero is on these cars it would be really expensive (and silly) to go much beyond headlight treatment and "grill" treatments and then just get BOPed back anyway - if superior to the original, especially since the engine too will get BOPed. As long as IMSA calls it a Cadillac or Nissan or Acura it doesn't much matter (see current DP "vette").
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IF IMSA's requirement is just "as long as it's something I guess", I can see HPD writing a 200 dollar check for aero, like Ford has done with their, uhm, "bodywork" for Riley DP... the bare minimum, for getting to be called "Honda Prototype" or "Acura Prototype" or whatever it is they want that Onroak car to be rebadged as. As said, no reason to waste money for anything else
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Should be Honda/Acura/HPD racing news today at the NYC Auto Show.
2017 DPi? 2017 NSX GT3? Two Pikes Peak NSX racers. Pikes Peak EV AWD CR-Z. |
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Maybe.
Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. |
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There should be an announcement later today re: Acura/HPD motorsports.
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