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1 Aug 2011, 00:02 (Ref:2934253) | #351 | |
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If LMP1 was run by SRO we would probably have Norma or Autocon's piece of junk dominating the season right now (well until they decide it's someone else's turn to be on top) so I think we shoud be relatively cool with the situation as it stands. Even if it's far from ideal
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I think the Spa 24h shows once again what happens when you put factory backed teams against privateers and gentlemen drivers. |
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1 Aug 2011, 00:52 (Ref:2934261) | #353 | |
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R8 LMS has survived the adjustments pretty well and that artificial 65min pit stop rule was on their side too, but yeah I do agree
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1 Aug 2011, 04:46 (Ref:2934292) | #354 | ||
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and didnt the strakka p2 win in hungary over all the P1 cars.......that shows you the state of privateer P1's Last edited by Audi Racer; 1 Aug 2011 at 04:59. |
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1 Aug 2011, 05:38 (Ref:2934296) | #355 | ||
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interesting and funny that Porsche actually has recorded 1 victory over the blisteringly quick Peugeot 908. when they won sebring overall. |
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The ARX-01 did have a lot of development work back when it was a factory car and Wirth also seems to be on top of things as far as developing that car. To that extent, the ARX-01e was actually quite competitive at Sebring this year even with no on-track testing for the new body kit. It would have been tough for it to compete against Audi and Peugeot at Le Mans since it is an older car with not so much recent testing and on-track development, but it still probably would have dusted the other petrol runners. Anyway, Peugeot and Audi are engaged in a battle royal right now and they seem to be sparing no expense to be able to beat each other. These teams are rumored to be firing drivers with great credentials just because their teams don't think they are fast enough. That's how intense they are pushing. The fact that their new cars were so fast and so reliable at Le Mans this year shows how much Le Mans means to them. Also, look at how fast they were able to go even with the new regs. The privateers at the moment just can't compete with that kind of financial commitment. For all we know, Audi and Peugeot may be spending more on developing their drinks bottles than some of the privateers are spending to develop their total car! IMO, the performance gap may be unfortunate, but it is reasonable and understandable. |
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1 Aug 2011, 07:02 (Ref:2934315) | #358 | ||
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Sorry if this has been up recently, but has a calender (or a proposal for a calender) been released?
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1 Aug 2011, 07:11 (Ref:2934320) | #359 | |
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7 races I believe, Le Mans plus 2 other European races, 2 races in the American continents, and 2 races in Asia. As far as what tracks make up the 6 unknown spots, who knows. I would assume that Spa and Silverstone would be the European events.
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1 Aug 2011, 07:13 (Ref:2934321) | #360 | ||
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Thank you! I really hope they have one of the Asia races at Suzuka, such a great circuit and with the Sportscar tradition in Japan they would be stupid not to have a race there.
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1 Aug 2011, 07:18 (Ref:2934323) | #361 | |
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Suzuka, or any number of tracks in Japan, would be great. However, I'm not so sure if that will happen. Certainly at least one of the Asian dates will go to China, but it is possible that there could be two Chinese dates. Perhaps China and India or Malaysia? We'll see I guess. It would be great if the Asian Le Mans Series made a comeback too.
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1 Aug 2011, 07:39 (Ref:2934334) | #362 | |
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The original calendar would have read Sebring, Brazil, Spa, Le Mans, Silverstone, Zhuhai plus another race in Asia. But, the teams are unhappy with 3 races prior to Le Mans and the proposed solution of moving Brazil to a slot between Le Mans and Silverstone would present considerable logistical problems. So........
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1 Aug 2011, 07:50 (Ref:2934338) | #363 | |
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Is the general consensus that Petit Le Mans is gone next year?
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As a fan, I'd like to see the organisers move heaven and earth to include PLM, which in turn would give a (small) boost to a series currently 'on life support'. |
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1 Aug 2011, 08:09 (Ref:2934343) | #365 | ||
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I guess if they do Interlagos and then Petit Le Mans, that is still too close to the F1 Brazilian Grand Prix, right? Plus I hear that only Audi wants to run Petit Le Mans. |
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1 Aug 2011, 08:57 (Ref:2934364) | #366 | ||
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I'd rather have Sebring on the calendar than PLM if it is a straight-out one-or-the-other. On the subject of the Americas, what about Mexico City? Suzuka would certainly be a great venue.
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With Sebring being so important as a pre-LM-test, I think the factories in P1 would still send their cars over, whereas all those who couldn't or didn't want to afford it could stay home. Quote:
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1 Aug 2011, 09:24 (Ref:2934378) | #368 | |
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What about having Sebring and then Interlagos?
A poster stated above that teams don't want 3 WEC races before Le Mans, but why not? You would think that would give them one more race to play with testing/aero/downforce/reliability, etc. |
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1 Aug 2011, 09:30 (Ref:2934380) | #369 | ||
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To go back to the earlier discussion about WEC being a good thing for BBC to show at low cost when it is not doing F1, it will be intersting to see how the dates fit with whatever races BBC are going to show.
A little planning by those organising the WEC may just pay TV dividends if the right people could get involved. For example, Martin B is a past WSC, and as he said yesyerday, may be looking for some work. He could make the point that with some thought the BBC could "cash in" by using the good will the F1 team has generated to publicise a revived championship. |
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If it was just the regular ALMS field + some additional Cup-Porsches and LMPCs, I doubt we'd see anything remotely close to record crowds. The only additional attraction would be the race length.... Last edited by Speed-King; 1 Aug 2011 at 10:49. |
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1 Aug 2011, 10:45 (Ref:2934405) | #372 | ||
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With regards to the calendar, why not think out of the box and run a September-June season with Le Mans as the last race of the season? Start the season with the 1000km of Suzuka and the second Asian round, a European race, run Interlagos in February before Sebring and end the season in Europe with Le Mans. I appreciate IndyCars did that and reversed it, but I think it actually could work here.
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At "worst" years there's been like two Audis, Dysons, Autocon plus a couple of forgettable P2s -all ALMS regulars- in the prototype ranks, yet the event has been a success. PLM does have it's own heritage, yes the prototypes are important but not everything. If PLM was to run without WEC next year we'd probably see some extra (local) GT/LMP entries to spice things up anyway
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Or with another example: if X team wins the race and Y team wins the championship, who would be happier? To make both of them happy, let's have the 24 Hours and the final race as separate as possible. |
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