ALMS Round 6: Road America

[ACFlinn]

Originally Posted by Matt

A bunch of the dp teams are funded by the series itself.

I've hear this rumor many times.

Can you provide the slightest shred of evidence?

Andy Flinn

[David Land]

Originally Posted by ACFlinn

I've hear this rumor many times.

Can you provide the slightest shred of evidence?

Andy Flinn

Who owns Action Express racing?

Who owns Spirit of Daytona?

Come on, lets please use our brains here.

[Adam43]

Please do not bring the petty, tedious and repetitive rubbish into race threads. If we're done discussing the race then fine the thread will die naturally. Please do not kill it with the same old bickering. Such a horrible death.

[BullMan]

Originally Posted by David Land

Who owns Action Express racing?

Who owns Spirit of Daytona?

Come on, lets please use our brains here.

Why NASCAR funds Action Express! Also, they fund Spirit of Daytona! Who the hell else would advertise the fact that they're based in Daytona of all places?

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by David Land

Who owns Action Express racing?

Who owns Spirit of Daytona?

Come on, lets please use our brains here.

Originally Posted by BullMan

Why NASCAR funds Action Express! Also, they fund Spirit of Daytona! Who the hell else would advertise the fact that they're based in Daytona of all places?

Post #353, guys, post #353.

I've been quite busy as of late (only managed to watch the Nationwide race at the Glen), but I heard Viper won! Wow, great news for them, and I'm so happy for them. They really could have won a lot earlier on (like Long Beach) but luck finally came their way. I have a feeling that will be the first win of many for SRT...

[Articus]

Hopefully good results for everyone. I think the next few tracks we should see back to a race between Corvette, Viper, and finally BMW. The BMW's will be superb around Baltimore, COTA, and VIR. They shouldn't expect any restrictor breaks because they won't need them to run with the pack in the next races. Baltimore is tight and good for the short wheelbase similar to longbeach. COTA is a downforce track. VIR is a downforce track.

Now where does Risi fit into this puzzle.

Finally what happened the AJR Battery Tender Ferrari in race??

[Lagunaseca_4life]

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-19955.html

Engine troubles took them out, braodcast totally missed that one.also noticed they started from the back like article says but never found out why.

[ThatGuy]

They failed the stall test after qualifying.

[Mechanic Z]

Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

I wish they could get them done faster, but because it's multi-class racing they *must* get the field in order first. Otherwise, at every caution you risk going a lap down to your own class leader based SOLEY on where and who the safety car decides to pickup first.

As for why they actually decide to go FCY, well.. I think in the ALMS races it's always for safety. In Europe they'll do a local caution and send the marshalls out into a gravel trap w/ some equipment to get the car back on track. That doesn't seem to happen here in the states (and I don't really blame them, you couldn't pay me enough to be a marshall and go out there to do that! have you seen some of these "professional" drivers? lol!).

It's a crappy problem.. but I haven't heard of a better solution or spent much time trying to come up with one myself.

-mike

+1. The ALMS safety car procedure takes a lot of time, but safety needs to come first.
As for the race, In person it was AWESOME. Can't say I liked seeing Viper win, but hey, it was a good fight anyway!

[Articus]

Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-19955.html

Engine troubles took them out, braodcast totally missed that one.also noticed they started from the back like article says but never found out why.

Ferrari!!

[HORNDAWG]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_7Coue_n-Y






L.P.

[Mechanic Z]

Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_7Coue_n-Y






L.P.

That was quick! It'll be good to watch the race broadcast. Thanks for the link!

[TRspitfirefan]

What a great weekend! There is nothing quite like seeing an ALMS race in person. I also really enjoyed the Conti race.The Grand Am race was fun to watch, although I was disappointed that the fall line Audi didn't start the race. IMSA lights and IMSA GT3 cup is always a good show as well.
Four days of great racing!

[Beetle]

Originally Posted by Articus

Ferrari!!

Their only halfway decent team seems to be Risi, and they missed the Mosport round, so they are out of contention for the title. AF Corse is where it's at, and possibly SMP Racing. But in America, after the ESM transition, I'm afraid business with Ferrari actually winning races is down and out.

[Articus]

Bruni, Vilander, Salo, Melo. Where the hell are these guys! Well not Melo.

[Jonerz]

Originally Posted by Beetle

Their only halfway decent team seems to be Risi, and they missed the Mosport round, so they are out of contention for the title. AF Corse is where it's at, and possibly SMP Racing. But in America, after the ESM transition, I'm afraid business with Ferrari actually winning races is down and out.

Originally Posted by Articus

Bruni, Vilander, Salo, Melo. Where the hell are these guys! Well not Melo.

Risi are having a really down year. I wonder if that should have been half-expected given they took a year off.

Melo is no longer a factory driver, I think Salo may be "retired" from American racing, anyway. Bruni and Vilander would increase the competitiveness of the team a lot.

I'm hoping one or two of the GAGT Ferraris transition to GTLM next year, with R.Ferri Motorsport being the prime candidate in my opinion. They have a history as partners with Giuseppe, I believe Remo wants to be in the premier GT category and keep an all-pro lineup intact. Whether that is Jeff and Max, or Jeff and Alex, or possibly factory drivers, who knows?

Chris

[avvelenamento]

Does IMSA site release max speed event bullettins?

[John Edwards]

Originally Posted by Accident

Personally, I like the livery of the Rolex GT car better than the Conti car. ..It may be a tube frame, but that Camaro is one of my favorite cars running today. I like the livery a lot, I like both drivers a lot, I like the team a lot, and I love the way it gobbles up the curbs and looks very compliant. I may be a bit biased though, as I grew up in a Chevy household and have always liked Camaros.

Thanks for the Camaro support! Of the two, I prefer the Conti better. Both look great to me though.

[TRspitfirefan]

Originally Posted by John Edwards

Of the two, I prefer the Conti better.

I agree.

[FalkenALMS]

Originally Posted by Mike Hedlund

I wish they could get them done faster, but because it's multi-class racing they *must* get the field in order first. Otherwise, at every caution you risk going a lap down to your own class leader based SOLEY on where and who the safety car decides to pickup first.

As for why they actually decide to go FCY, well.. I think in the ALMS races it's always for safety.

Agreed with Mike. Sure, FCYs aren't entertaining for the fans, but their number one purpose is for safety. Doing a local yellow with some of the crashes at RA would have caused more carnage. It's much safer to get the accident cleaned up and get the car out of the way. It also gives (some) teams a little help with passarounds, and adds to the strategy with additional chances for pit stops.

For those complaining about the last yellow, that certainly took more than nine minutes to clean up. There was no way they could have gotten that out of the way, completed pass arounds and gone back to green before the end.

Thanks to everyone who came out to say hello during the weekend. We'll get photos up of the 10/10ths tour within the next day or two.

[TRspitfirefan]

I think the current FCY system works pretty well. It does take awhile, but it allows track workers a much better level of safety than the European races.
The flaw with the "Code 60" method, is that the cars would still be spread out. The corner workers would not have as much time between the cars going by.

Also the cautions did not seem as long, when watching the race in person.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by FalkenALMS

Agreed with Mike. Sure, FCYs aren't entertaining for the fans, but their number one purpose is for safety. Doing a local yellow with some of the crashes at RA would have caused more carnage. It's much safer to get the accident cleaned up and get the car out of the way. It also gives (some) teams a little help with passarounds, and adds to the strategy with additional chances for pit stops.

For those complaining about the last yellow, that certainly took more than nine minutes to clean up. There was no way they could have gotten that out of the way, completed pass arounds and gone back to green before the end.

Thanks to everyone who came out to say hello during the weekend. We'll get photos up of the 10/10ths tour within the next day or two.

Code 60... or Code whatever speed you pick is the answer. A caution is needed, you call Code 60... cars must circulate at a maximum speed, in this case 60 km/h... no safety car, no waive arounds, nobody gains advantage or disadvantage from the yellows.

[Maelochs]

As was mentioned above, Code 60 leaves cars spread out. This is fine so long as track workers and emergency vehicles don't have to cross the track or work near the track's edge.

For big wrecks in hard-to-reach places, FCY might be the best choice, and as Mr. Hedlund notes, once the pace car hits the track in multi-class racing, wave-bys are needed for fairness (I know I saw a lot of complaint on an old ALMS site before wave-bys were added.)

My hope now is that USCR will spend the money for corner cranes (seeing as they are making car owners spend the money for roof hooks) so FCYs can be short and fewer---a crane in the corner of that final wreck would have made all the difference.

[MoMedic9019]

Maelochs, it would have, other than the fact it's not physically possible there. The area behind the wall is a 70* slope.

[EricS]

Majority of the FCYs are slowed down due to the pit stop rules; GA takes 3 laps just to get the pit stops out of the way. If they would leave the pits open like F1 things would go a lot faster, or close them for the duration of the yellow (making exception for those that are almost out of fuel or damaged from the cause of the yellow)