Lola T280

[Michael Oliver]

Hi Monte

Good to see you posting again on a thread which has gone a bit quite over the past year or so!

I am able to contact Heine Mader but do you have any idea of contact details for Ulf Boman - I don't know where to start looking?! If you would prefer not to post them, perhaps you could PM me?

Is your car still in the yellow livery and original bodywork configuration?

I don't think there is much doubt it is HU1 but it would be very satisfying if the gaps between Rouveyran and Boman could be filled in...

Michael

[mshalett]

<<Is your car still in the yellow livery and original bodywork configuration?

I don't think there is much doubt it is HU1 but it would be very satisfying if the gaps between Rouveyran and Boman could be filled in...>>

Michael,

Yes, still in the original yellow livery and bodywork configuration. Will look in my files, but Ulf is in Sweden (or was). He also owned and raced a BRM 721 (???) Can-Am car which maybe someone on one of the Can-Am sites has some more info.

Cheers,

Monte

[driftwood]

HU4 yes i know who bought it he sat in front of me feverishly bidding on it

Monte i am surprised that the usa racing rules where so specific that they wanted pre 72 cars nowadays it nearly a "free for all" they make rule sthen let a bum in a seat deal arise for a later car if the grid is lean
In EEc the rules are the rules fia papers required etc

when it comes to comparing 280 to 290 cars apart from the obvious dfv in the back and the larger dg300 gearbox there is not that many obvious tell tale differences when the body is fitted although it is different body moulds to mak ethe bodywork
The main difference i found is the front anti roll bar then the brake calipres
the roll hoop rear engine frame is different but then u have spotted the dfv in the back!

[mshalett]

Who bought it?

Actually, there is very little difference. From front-on, none unless you can spot the front tire footprint of the 13" vs the 10". The rear-on is quite different the main being the huge rear tires (vs the 290's slightly smaller) and the DG300 and brake calipers fill the whole rear quite effectively with almost no half shaft showing - different than the 290. I had both cars side by side, in the same Ecurie Bonnier livery. The dual openings for the DFV intake stacks and exhausts are a give away if you are close enough to note. Other than that, they are identical, I think. Wheels are deeper from a side view, but that would be difficult to determine. Any other differences anyone? Oh yes, the sound is a bit different. On the track, the 2 liter acquits itself nicely, but top speed is another story for the 3 liter.

Originally Posted by driftwood

HU4 yes i know who bought it he sat in front of me feverishly bidding on it

Monte i am surprised that the usa racing rules where so specific that they wanted pre 72 cars nowadays it nearly a "free for all" they make rule sthen let a bum in a seat deal arise for a later car if the grid is lean
In EEc the rules are the rules fia papers required etc

when it comes to comparing 280 to 290 cars apart from the obvious dfv in the back and the larger dg300 gearbox there is not that many obvious tell tale differences when the body is fitted although it is different body moulds to mak ethe bodywork
The main difference i found is the front anti roll bar then the brake calipres
the roll hoop rear engine frame is different but then u have spotted the dfv in the back!

[driftwood]

Leo Voyazides raced Lola T280 HU5 at Donington Master race run by Fox motorsport

[phdm]

Originally Posted by mshalett

As you may have read, Chassis HU01 is in my possession in the USA.

Monte,

Do you still own HU01 ?

phdm

[driftwood]

yes he does

[phdm]

There is one T280 HU1 being restored in Belgium at the moment

[phdm]

Originally Posted by phdm

There is one T280 HU1 being restored in Belgium at the moment

Rectify: HU01

[driftwood]

wrong its hu3

[phdm]

it's not what the chassis plate says

[Alain HACHE]

In despite of silence on this thread I continue to look for T280 story and have founded the poor Bonnier's car HU2 .
I got the info from a good swedish friend .
Sure that the car was never rebuilded because Jean Tinguely , french artist ;
took the chassis and made an work called " l'ange" .
A tribute to Jo Bonnier ?
.
The work is exhibed at in an Modern art Museum in Basel , Switzerland.
best regards
Alain.

[allenbrown]

Thanks Alain.

The Lola T280 page that I constructed from this thread remains very popular but I haven't got around to updating it recently. I'll add this information.

[driftwood]

Well done Alain the mystery finally put to rest
i still have a query over Mahe t280 car that runs with no chassis plate!!

[Nordic]

Tinguely must of got the remains some time after the crash or stored them as he did not create the piece until 1988 quite late in his life. by then he was in ill health and most of his pieces took on a morbid tone, hence the skull.

It is called ''Lola T. 180 - Memorial to Joakim B.'

[allenbrown]

Where's Chris? It's Art and Death. Where have I heard that phrase recently?

[driftwood]

what do u mean where is chrs
where are u? I think im in Coventry
Art n Death
possibly 1 of those TV duos that introduce TV programmes?
or are you thinking Alf Garnett?

[jkeller]

Alain,

There is a similar discussion about the Jean Tinguely sculpture on the TTNF forum.

The sculpture cannot be the T280 that Bonnier was driving when he died.

First, the sculpture is made up from two chassis. In the center of the piece is a Lola T210 or T212 standing nose up, sitting on the rear crossmember that the gearbox bolts to. I am 100% sure it's a T210/212, I have T212-HU26 sitting in my shop, the chassis is the same (except for all the damage).

The outer two pieces on the sculpture are from what I think is a T220 or T222. It is sawn in half and mounted nose down.
The giveaway that it's not a T280 is the aluminium extensions that extend rearward of the crossmember that the engine mounts attach to.
In the picture, crossmember is just above the larger oval holes near the outer edge. These extensions do not exist on a T280 but they do on a T220 series car.

Here is a link to Chris Fox's website; on the page is a picture of the rear of a T280 tub. It is very different from the tubs used for the sculpture.

http://homepage.mac.com/foxmotorsport/PhotoAlbum19.html


Jim Keller

[Wolfgang]

Mr Casoni drove the LOLA T280 HU1, Ecurie Bonnier.
© AUTOSPORT and © Auto, Motor und Sport Heft 19

[driftwood]

That race is the Rothmans 50 000 at brands 28 august 1972
Casoni drove Ecurie Bonnier entetered car Carlos Gasper drove the other car entered by the Bank International Portugal

[znarfg]

Hello all
yesterday I saw a Lola T284 HU7 with DFV engine. The car comes from Heini Mader. The car was raced by Manfredini. Has anyone information about the car?
Many thanks
Franz

[znarfg]

I was wrong. It's a T 294 HU7
Franz

[allenbrown]

That would mean a T290 originally. Phil Daigrepont is said to own T290 HU7. Is that the same car?

[driftwood]

yr both wrong the car has to be t286 hu7 car is usa owned car?
allen yr confusing people t290 hu7 has 4 cylinder motor in it as u would expect!!

[Dan Rear]

'Walter Lehman' in a T280 DFV at a late season 1973 Hockenheim Interserie. Is this the Zaborowski car?