What is Aston Martin up to? - Page 150

Coach Ep · 10 Nov 2011, 10:14 (Ref:2983903)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

I assume that Gulf AMR Middle-East aren't.

Chances are slim, they just announced a 2-car LMP2 WEC effort, also purchased 2 new McLarens for Blancpain series isn´t that right?

Maybe Jota could take over that car and run it in GTE-Am and focus their current car on GTE-Pro with a couple of established (AM) drivers onboard. Is Jota focussing on LMS or are they targeting WEC? Haven´t read or heard anything about their plans.

Pandamasque · 10 Nov 2011, 10:42 (Ref:2983913)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Chances are slim, they just announced a 2-car LMP2 WEC effort, also purchased 2 new McLarens for Blancpain series isn´t that right?

I think Graham Goodwin said that the new LMP2 entrant it's not quite the same team (same sponsor though).

AGD · 10 Nov 2011, 11:22 (Ref:2983929)

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Originally Posted by Pandamasque

I think Graham Goodwin said that the new LMP2 entrant it's not quite the same team (same sponsor though).

I believe the thought is that Giroix is behind the LMP2 effort and Wainright and Goethe are involved with the McLaren. I think Dave Price might be involved with the McLaren and perhaps/perhaps not with the LMP2s, but I don't know if that is clear yet.

Simmi · 10 Nov 2011, 12:22 (Ref:2983957)

So we shouldn't dismiss the possibility of another Gulf car still on the grid next year.

The Badger · 10 Nov 2011, 12:29 (Ref:2983961)

Im just happy to see AMR tackle the Vantage themselves , what they shoulda done in the first place .

Good eng back up , good drivers , looking forward to some sparks perhaps .

NightStalk3r · 10 Nov 2011, 14:12 (Ref:2983986)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

looking forward to some sparks perhaps .

Hopefully not from the engine bay

GT3.14 · 10 Nov 2011, 17:11 (Ref:2984041)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Maybe Jota could take over that car and run it in GTE-Am and focus their current car on GTE-Pro with a couple of established (AM) drivers onboard. Is Jota focussing on LMS or are they targeting WEC? Haven´t read or heard anything about their plans.

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...ntage_gt2.html

Looks like Jota is selling their Vantage. Looks like they are moving on, or they could have just ordered a new chassis.

Simmi · 10 Nov 2011, 17:44 (Ref:2984055)

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Originally Posted by GT3.14

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...ntage_gt2.html

Looks like Jota is selling their Vantage. Looks like they are moving on, or they could have just ordered a new chassis.

I wouldn't blame them if they were opting to move on. They've been stung as much as any on this AMR-One debacle. Hopefully they will stick around.

Deleted · 10 Nov 2011, 18:11 (Ref:2984073)

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Originally Posted by Joe Taylor

Why not add a Lola Aston and an AMROne to top and tail the field too? Just for completeness' sake.

DBR9 would probably outpace (and definitely outlast) the AMR-One rather easily

AGD · 10 Nov 2011, 23:11 (Ref:2984163)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

So we shouldn't dismiss the possibility of another Gulf car still on the grid next year.

Perhaps, but I don't know if either "Gulf" operation are still interested in running a GTE-Am effort. We'll see I guess.

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I wouldn't blame them if they were opting to move on. They've been stung as much as any on this AMR-One debacle. Hopefully they will stick around.

Yeah, I wonder what Jota is up to. Obviously they were planning on switching to LMP1. Is that still an option even without an Aston LMP offering? If they stay in GTE, do they stick with the Aston? I heard there was an issue with Jota's AMR-One deposit or something like that. I'd assume the issue is whether AMR returned the deposit? I don't know, but the answer to that question may also be the answer to the question about the state of Jota's relationship with AMR.

The other question is where Jota planned on racing their AMR-One if everything worked out as planned. I don't remember if that was ever announced or not. The LMS would not be an option anymore. Did they plan on entering the ILMC/WEC?

Coach Ep · 10 Nov 2011, 23:28 (Ref:2984169)

Well, since Simon Dolan is paying the bills for Jota, P2 or FLM (if they don´t wanna run at Le Mans /WEC yet) would be a sensible move if they are to move up to the prototypes ranks. We´ll see.

FstrthnU · 11 Nov 2011, 03:15 (Ref:2984214)

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...igns-from-amr/ This just in, the head of Prodrive, George Howard Chappell, resigned from the team. He said that the AMR-One did not affect his decision, he just felt like leaving.

MitchZ06 · 11 Nov 2011, 03:45 (Ref:2984219)

Bit late...

KA · 11 Nov 2011, 11:10 (Ref:2984306)

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Originally Posted by AGD

The other question is where Jota planned on racing their AMR-One if everything worked out as planned. I don't remember if that was ever announced or not. The LMS would not be an option anymore. Did they plan on entering the ILMC/WEC?

When did Jota originally announce that they planned in the longer term to step up to an AMR-One? If it was at the time they first announced their LMS Vantage programme for this year, then that might well have been before the LMS dropping LMP1 was announced- (IIRC the LMS changes for next year were announced some time into the season?) and Jota's intentions could well have been LMS?

Pandamasque · 11 Nov 2011, 11:27 (Ref:2984313)

Yes, Jota announced the plan to go with AMR-One waaay before the LMS announcement. I'm not sure AMR-One had even been shaken down at that point.
I never heard anything from them about those plans ever since AMR-One hit the road...

Tim the Grey · 11 Nov 2011, 11:52 (Ref:2984317)

IIRC Jota were announced as a customer pretty much simultaneously with the AMR launch?
It would make sense for them to run an LMP2 next season, as part of this 'ladder' that they always say they are building, to take Simon from trackday to Le Mans LMP entry.

Though much of that no longer appears on the website?

Simmi · 11 Nov 2011, 21:41 (Ref:2984528)

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Originally Posted by Tim the Grey

IIRC Jota were announced as a customer pretty much simultaneously with the AMR launch?
It would make sense for them to run an LMP2 next season, as part of this 'ladder' that they always say they are building, to take Simon from trackday to Le Mans LMP entry.

Though much of that no longer appears on the website?

I seem to think they were announced as customer around the same time the concept art broke cover. So long before the LMS announcement and long before the AMR-One turned a wheel.

Good luck to Jota in whatever they do next.

Tim the Grey · 14 Nov 2011, 11:55 (Ref:2986102)

Quite. A nice bunch of people, I've found...

AGD · 17 Nov 2011, 07:40 (Ref:2987570)

Sam Hancock says there's nothing new to report regarding Jota future so I guess we'll still have to wait and see what develops. Also, it sounds like Sam is saying that the Dunlops are more "efficient" over a stint than the Michelins. I'm not sure if that translated correctly.

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-8733.html

gustavobamba · 17 Nov 2011, 09:30 (Ref:2987613)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Sam Hancock says there's nothing new to report regarding Jota future so I guess we'll still have to wait and see what develops. Also, it sounds like Sam is saying that the Dunlops are more "efficient" over a stint than the Michelins. I'm not sure if that translated correctly.

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-8733.html

According to this interview the AMR-One had solution but the price is money that will cost is to much!!!
Sad but comprehensive new´s.

gustavobamba · 17 Nov 2011, 09:32 (Ref:2987614)

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Originally Posted by AGD

Sam Hancock says there's nothing new to report regarding Jota future so I guess we'll still have to wait and see what develops. Also, it sounds like Sam is saying that the Dunlops are more "efficient" over a stint than the Michelins. I'm not sure if that translated correctly.

http://www.endurance-info.com/version2/actualite-endurance-8733.html

According to this interview the AMR-One had solution but the money that will cost is to much!!!
Sad but comprehensive new´s.

claude · 17 Nov 2011, 12:31 (Ref:2987693)

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Originally Posted by gustavobamba

According to this interview the AMR-One had solution but the money that will cost is to much!!!
Sad but comprehensive new´s.

Gustavo, the translation is correct. Sam wrote me exactly : "tyres from Dunlop that in my opinion out-performed Michelins over the length of a stint".

Tim the Grey · 17 Nov 2011, 13:00 (Ref:2987712)

That seems to be how I remembered it. Michelin having an early edge, then the Dunlops equal or better from around 1/3 of the way in, and having quite an edge by the end of a stint. This is from comparing 458s, though!

JayBMS · 17 Nov 2011, 23:15 (Ref:2987994)

There is a Lola Aston Martin in Jotas workshop at the moment. Dont know why.

AGD · 17 Nov 2011, 23:21 (Ref:2987997)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

There is a Lola Aston Martin in Jotas workshop at the moment. Dont know why.

Interesting. Maybe Dolan is buying one as a collector item and/or as a historic racer? Maybe he got a good deal on one and will convert it to a regular B12/60 spec? Maybe it'll run the AMR-One engine? Maybe they are thinking about running in the ALMS? Or maybe some other collector wanted Jota to do some work on the car? I guess there are a lot of possibilities, but I would not get excited about any of them yet.

EDIT: That's interesting about the Dunlop tires. It seems like the same might be true of the BMW and JMW Ferrari tires. I wonder if the Ferrari, BMW, and Aston Dunlops are essentially the same or if they just have a similar technological background.

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