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Now that all said, Katech could sell ( wild guess here ) LS7s Track Attach race motors.
Mind you this not the same as the LS7r but still a very good and powerful motor. |
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Why the scepticism?
Evo/production engine regs are specifically to encourage GM and Aston Martin, amongst others. Doug Fehan said, with a knowing smile, nothing at the ACO press conference suprised him, including the 7l reg change. The article posted earlier has the GM boss openly talking about P1 and supplying engines. LAA, who are effectively GM's Euro (semi) factory team are moving to P1, and want to use a GT1 engine. GT1 in it's current form is a dead duck, possibly even the Katech 7l with it's specialised bits and pieces. Katech/GM's engine tech will be protected if engines are leased, just as RS Spyder, Audi, Aston Martin (?), Judd etc engines are only dealt with by their engineers. Suppling engines is a viable business for a manufacturer, it happens in F1, Indycar etc, and I would hope increasingly in sportscars with production engines. There isn't actually a need for a full factory chassis, Aston Martin have shown that. Basically there's far more evidence there will be a P1 with GM V8 pounding around the tracks this time next year, than there was for an Aston Martin engined P1 until very, very late last year. The Lola Aston Martin was put together very late, GM has 6 months before they need to make a firm decision, yet there is already all this talk. |
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F1 engine lease programs are more then most LMP1 or GT1 team budgets
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22 Aug 2008, 12:15 (Ref:2273299) | #382 | |
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And...........?
GM's engine is in demand, the regs are in place, the manufactuer is looking for a new direction, new GT regs are at least 18 months away, while Aston Martin have proved the concept works. Multiple manufactuer supply/lease engines to single seater series, GM have an engine that has had millions invested in it begging to be a front running P1 motor. If they aren't going to build a P1 themselves supplying the engine and/or adapting a customer chassis is ideal. GM need to be back in the limelight at the sharp end of the grid. |
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I really don't care what they do, but make a decision.
Aston Martin have been up and running in P1 for 12 months, in fact they are the talk of the class. GM politics are holding back P&M, just like it has with previous WRC, DTM and domestic touring car programs, not to mention the Cadillac program being cancelled just as it was hitting the front! |
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I wish Porsche would take a page from your book Aslak .
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Hmm, P&M did not run the Cadillac LMP program. But they did recently run the suspended/closed Speed World Challenge CTS-V program. So it could/might be taken either way.
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26 Aug 2008, 15:35 (Ref:2275676) | #390 | |
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I was talking about the P1.
I cannot believe how P&M can be left hanging for so long when they are one of the best in the business. I know P&M have a contract, but they, and more to the point GM, need to be competing in a competive class. I realise the program is for the US market primarily, but it's the only major GM project to compete in Europe, they don't compete in the WRC or DTM, only the odd domestic series. The Corvette program is giving the brand great publicity around Europe, Le Mans, LMS and FIA GT. |
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who says P&M is just hanging?
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http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...8/newsletter11
The Corvette C6.R is likely moving to the GT2 class next season. Corvette Racing appears increasingly likely to move from the GT1 class to GT2 as early as the middle of next season. A proposal is on the table that would see the existing Corvette C6.R GT1 car race in the American Le Mans Series--up to and including the 24 Hours of Le Mans--before Chevrolet switches to a GT2 version. The new car, developed, as was its predecessor, by Pratt & Miller, then would take part in selected ALMS races during the second half of the season. "We will hopefully get to a 95 percent answer very soon," said General Motors road-racing boss Steve Wesoloski. "Over the next six weeks, budgets will be finalized, so we can determine the 2009 program in detail." This article was last updated on: 08/26/08, 11:34 et |
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So with AMR likely not returning to GT1, they'll take a relatively easy win at Le Mans before moving...nice thinking
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